JackBurton
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I think there were attempts made to stop the migrant ships. Also, you have no idea if they are armed. What exactly should be done? Nothing is being done where this all starts.
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Wayward DP
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Wayward DP
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armed? seriously?
and what should be done? maybe commit resources to saving innocent lives rather than letting them drown at sea.
but I agree that nothing is being done where it starts. doesn't mean we should knowingly allow migrants to drown cause we don't want to use our limited resources on them. save those for the dumbass billionaires.
JackBurton
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Yes, people can be armed on there. I don't mean the individuals who paid to be taken to Europe, I mean the shady people who were on board who arranged it. These are very dangerous people.
The issue is indeed where it starts.
JackBurton
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I am not on any "Woke" train, but that comment by the CEO about 50 year-old white guys, when you're dealing with with such a small pool of people in the world who can be qualified to make something like that work and be safe was pretty ludicrous.
hockeylover
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I get that they're happening at the same time so people are upset at the differences in response... but is that actually logical?
Royal Canadian Air Force and US Navy + Coast Guard are sending resources to something off the coast of Eastern Canada/US and the Greek Coast Guard is dealing with the migrant ship tragedy in their waters.
MindzEye
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I mean, when you get to the root of what he was saying it wasn't "woke" it was anti expertise.
This is going to be twisted to be about identity, but it comes down to him not appreciating the technical challenges involved. He thinks he knows better than the experts.
Wayward DP
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I agree it doesn't make sense for Canada and the US to be dealing with what is happening in Europe and the Mediterranean.
just seems offensive to see how much effort is put into finding five missing billionaires vs how little effort is put into actual vulnerable folks risking their lives.
Wayward DP
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yeah this is fair. my comments were more related to efforts to recover capsized boats etc.
MindzEye
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To tack onto this, I'm going to bet that the real reason he didn't like 50 yr old ex military white guy experts had nothing to do with why he said he preferred 25 yr olds and everything to do with the fact that a 25 yr old could be talked into doing something incredibly stupid, like getting into a sub not rated for those depths and pilot it with a piece of equipment that isn't even as good as what's sitting on my desk right now.
Good luck getting a guy who used to ping the Red fucking October from a US death star class nuclear submarine to do the same.
Wayward DP
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MindzEye
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axlsalinger
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Couple of things:
It is fair to say, "Hey, why doesn't anybody care about boatloads of migrants?" It's tragic. But at the same time, it's an entirely different situation, in an entirely different place. We also don't need to reference every single boat in trouble around the world every single fucking time we want to talk about the Titanic submersible.
Also, a lot of fun being made about the idea of driving the thing with a video game controller, but apparently this is a thing.
www.insider.com
But the idea isn't as far-fetched as it may sound. The use of simple devices like controllers can actually make submersibles more reliable, Harvard marine scientist Peter Girguis told Insider's Kwan Wei Kevin Tan.
In fact, the US military also uses video game hardware.
In 2017, the US Navy announced it would begin using Xbox 360 controllers in submarines to operate the photonic masts, which replaced periscopes. A 377-foot-long sub known as the USS Colorado was the first to utilize the controllers when it joined the Navy's fleet in 2018.
Cmdr. Reed Koepp told USA Today at the time the controllers were cost-effective and came with an added bonus — young sailors already knew how to handle them.
At least two major weapons systems that the US military is focusing on utilize Xbox-style controllers, Task and Purpose reported in March.
Girguis said making fun of the gaming controller in the submersible was appealing because it's "an easy target" but that a lot of undersea vessels "use similar controllers."
"Why? They're intuitive," he said. "What REALLY MATTERS is the physical design and integrity of any sub, as well as the control and safety systems."
It is fair to say, "Hey, why doesn't anybody care about boatloads of migrants?" It's tragic. But at the same time, it's an entirely different situation, in an entirely different place. We also don't need to reference every single boat in trouble around the world every single fucking time we want to talk about the Titanic submersible.
Also, a lot of fun being made about the idea of driving the thing with a video game controller, but apparently this is a thing.
Yes, the missing Titanic tourist sub is piloted with a video game controller — but some US Navy submarines also utilize Xbox 360 controllers
The missing Titanic submersible was run with a Logitech gamepad controller. The Navy uses Xbox controllers to operate photonic masts in submarines.
www.insider.com
But the idea isn't as far-fetched as it may sound. The use of simple devices like controllers can actually make submersibles more reliable, Harvard marine scientist Peter Girguis told Insider's Kwan Wei Kevin Tan.
In fact, the US military also uses video game hardware.
In 2017, the US Navy announced it would begin using Xbox 360 controllers in submarines to operate the photonic masts, which replaced periscopes. A 377-foot-long sub known as the USS Colorado was the first to utilize the controllers when it joined the Navy's fleet in 2018.
Cmdr. Reed Koepp told USA Today at the time the controllers were cost-effective and came with an added bonus — young sailors already knew how to handle them.
At least two major weapons systems that the US military is focusing on utilize Xbox-style controllers, Task and Purpose reported in March.
Girguis said making fun of the gaming controller in the submersible was appealing because it's "an easy target" but that a lot of undersea vessels "use similar controllers."
"Why? They're intuitive," he said. "What REALLY MATTERS is the physical design and integrity of any sub, as well as the control and safety systems."
MindzEye
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Couple of things:
It is fair to say, "Hey, why doesn't anybody care about boatloads of migrants?" It's tragic. But at the same time, it's an entirely different situation, in an entirely different place. We also don't need to reference every single boat in trouble around the world every single fucking time we want to talk about the Titanic submersible.
Also, a lot of fun being made about the idea of driving the thing with a video game controller, but apparently this is a thing.
Yes, the missing Titanic tourist sub is piloted with a video game controller — but some US Navy submarines also utilize Xbox 360 controllers
The missing Titanic submersible was run with a Logitech gamepad controller. The Navy uses Xbox controllers to operate photonic masts in submarines.
But the idea isn't as far-fetched as it may sound. The use of simple devices like controllers can actually make submersibles more reliable, Harvard marine scientist Peter Girguis told Insider's Kwan Wei Kevin Tan.
In fact, the US military also uses video game hardware.
In 2017, the US Navy announced it would begin using Xbox 360 controllers in submarines to operate the photonic masts, which replaced periscopes. A 377-foot-long sub known as the USS Colorado was the first to utilize the controllers when it joined the Navy's fleet in 2018.
Cmdr. Reed Koepp told USA Today at the time the controllers were cost-effective and came with an added bonus — young sailors already knew how to handle them.
At least two major weapons systems that the US military is focusing on utilize Xbox-style controllers, Task and Purpose reported in March.
Girguis said making fun of the gaming controller in the submersible was appealing because it's "an easy target" but that a lot of undersea vessels "use similar controllers."
"Why? They're intuitive," he said. "What REALLY MATTERS is the physical design and integrity of any sub, as well as the control and safety systems."
There's a bit of difference between running specific and non safety essential stuff like masts, remote operating gear to remove soldiers out of the direct line of fire by using a controller remotely...and using an off the shelf logitech to make sure you don't die 2.4 miles below the surface of the ocean.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Apparently the sub was also without any sort of GPS. Their preferred method of communication with the world 4kms above them and all that water was via text message.
These were not serious people and the rich assholes who each paid $250K to die in that sub were under the misapprehension that their vast wealth made them impervious to water pressure. That kind of hubris doesn't come from people who had to work for their money. These nepo babies were all born on 3rd base with inherited wealth. They will not be missed.
anne25
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You have facts or just or is this something you want to be true?
LeafGm
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Seems like this guy was operating with a pretty typical tech bro kind of mentality.
“Move fast and break things”, and “I don’t understand how this thing I have zero real expertise in works and why it’s important, therefore it isn’t important.”
axlsalinger
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seems like building an exclusive clientele of people willing to pay $250k for a seat would pay for proper safety measures pretty easily.
Just sheer stupidity with a touch of hubris. at least he went down with the ship.
Just sheer stupidity with a touch of hubris. at least he went down with the ship.
axlsalinger
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Poor kid.