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OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

HabsFan1 said:
Knecht couldn’t ask for a better fit.
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Stand in the corner and hit these open 3's on Lebron cross court passes kid.

and defend. The thing about Knecht is that he's got decent size (6'6 with 6'9 wingspan) and solid quickness so he projects defensively as a wing defender as well if he puts the work in.
 
Fuck, we leaked.

Ja'Kobe Walter

We wanted more shooting. Like this way better than something like George. But don't love it.
 
MindzEye said:
Collier was my 1B if that helps and he's probably what we take.
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that would help

Hoolinger writeup

The No. 1 pick hype was overblown – Collier has too many warts in his offensive game to warrant a selection that high, with iffy shooting, too many turnovers and a bully-ball style limiting his appeal as a leading man at the offensive end. That said, he has some similarities to Holland: He was asked to carry a 30 percent usage rate for a bad team; what did you think would happen?

But, um, can we talk about his defense? Collier was a bit inconsistent on that end, but his best plays were off the charts. Here is a play where he ends up getting scored on … but look at the multiple efforts and lateral slides that preceded it. (Collier is No. 1 in dark jersey, starting at the bottom of the screen).

The data says Collier pilfered 3.2 steals per 100 possessions, and while this was partly due to USC’s gambling system (teammate Kobe Johnson nicked 4.1, for instance), Collier’s tape in one-on-one defense is pretty impressive. You’d just wish he’d followed that up on the boards; for a strong 6-5 guard, his 5.6 percent rebound rate was pathetic.

Offensively, Collier shoots a flick off the top of his head with inconsistent arc, which will need some work. He shot 33.8 percent from 3 and 67.3 percent from the line at USC, and if you watched his pregame work, those are believable numbers. He also had some mind-boggling turnovers, with a strange proclivity for throwing terribly inaccurate passes even when he’d made the correct read.

He also probably needs to play off the ball at the next level; he struggles to elevate at the rim, doesn’t show much left-hand finishing skill and he is just an average decision-maker. Given his tank frame, he may even evolve into a Lu Dort type if he can straighten out his catch-and-shoot game. More likely, he’s a secondary scorer as a slasher who can also defend the perimeter and guard up in size. That gives him value, even if he's not No. 1 pick material.
 
MindzEye said:
Fuck, we leaked.

Ja'Kobe Walter

We wanted more shooting. Like this way better than something like George. But don't love it.
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not as excited...


Walter is a tough evaluation because the outlines are there for a 3-and-D guard in the mold of Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. That’s a reasonably attainable mid-case scenario, not some outlier upside thing.

There’s just not a whole lot more you can stick a fork into. Walter shot 3s frequently but not all that accurately (11.6 attempts per 100 possessions but only 34.1 percent from 3 and 79.2 percent from the line). He played perfectly acceptable defense … and otherwise did little that would move a role-player evaluation for better or for worse.

Most notably, Walter shot very poorly inside the arc (just 40.6 percent in Big 12 play) despite playing on an elite team, a red flag for his finishing and shot-creation skill. That came with a negative assist-to-turnover ratio too. An unusually high free-throw rate for a player of his ilk offset that, but offensively, it’s hard to see him as more than a second option.

Defensively, the story gets better. Walter has good size and moves well, pressures dribblers and posted a solid steal rate in his one college season. Physically, he looks like he can match up against NBA shooting guards and will likely need to embrace that part of the game to become a viable starter by his second contract.
 
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