OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread
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zeke
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'4 blocks!
MindzEye
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Phoenix just traded their 2031 1st for 3 1st round picks, whichever 3 are the least favourable of the Jazz 2025, 27, and 29 picks they currently own
Which means they're going balls in on Jimmy and needed the assets to get Milwaukee to take Beal.
There's a rumour out there tonight of a 4 team deal coming together between Phoenix, Miami, and Milwaukee
Jimmy to Suns
Middleton to Heat
Beal to Bucks
4th team is a money facilitator, so probably us tbh.
Which means they're going balls in on Jimmy and needed the assets to get Milwaukee to take Beal.
There's a rumour out there tonight of a 4 team deal coming together between Phoenix, Miami, and Milwaukee
Jimmy to Suns
Middleton to Heat
Beal to Bucks
4th team is a money facilitator, so probably us tbh.
MyNameIsJonas
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What does Milwaukee get with Beal over Middleton? Are they just saying fuck defense?
Yup and that Beal contract is dog shit
Pwner
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MindzEye
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Middleton is busted at this point and can't play starters minutes, so while Beal probably isn't as good, Middleton can really only play 22-25 minutes a night anymore. Beal is still a pretty good starter and at this point the Bucks are pretty desperate to take a swing at something to make Giannis-Dame work and the trade would also include them moving on from some salary commitments for next year (I expect us, or whoever the the facilitator is to end up with Portis & Connaughton, both of whom are guaranteed money next year).
The Bucks would also, I imagine, get some expiring contracts and picks out of the deal as well.
Fwiw, I think the trade would look something roughly like this if we were involved:
To Bucks: Beal, Davion
To Heat: Middleton, Bruce
To Phoenix: Jimmy
To Toronto: Portis, Connaughton, draft compensation for Bruce from Miami, draft compensation from Milwaukee for taking Connaughton.
MindzEye
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Fwiw, this is complicated as fuck to make work financially and thankfully sportrac's new trade machine looks to have a pretty comprehensive grasp of the new CBA, I was able to make this work financially under the new rules
To Bucks: Beal
To Heat: Middleton, Brown, Boucher
To Suns: Jimmy
To Toronto: Portis, Connaughton, Duncan Robinson, Gary Trent (add any minimum player you prefer from Milwaukee, they need to send a body to us because they can't aggregate Beal's salary using multiple players because they're 2nd apron)
If a couple of the 1sts floating around in this deal found their way to us, I'd do this. Portis would be a really nice 6th man/PF that we could probably get to extend (has a player option next year) and would be a nice piece. Connaughton has a PO as well, but is likely to opt in. He's kind of washed now, but there are worse things to have with this group than a mid bench veteran with championship experience that D's decently well. Robinson is overpaid, but can shoot the ball, and would be a legit option to start at SF for us....he would obviously not fix our defensive issues, but his salary would be a nice trade piece next year and we could use the shooting in the interim.
Bucks would get their guy and clear up some salary issues they've been trying to clear up (while creating another issue, but desperation is a hell of a drug). Heat would sort out the Jimmy issue and get some assets out of it without damaging the team much this season. Suns get their guy and clear up some salary issues, and the Raptors would get useful rotation veterans using cap space they otherwise were going to have to go into free agency in the summer to fill (and lock that in for 3-4 years to get good players with it) while likely mopping up some draft capital along the way.
To Bucks: Beal
To Heat: Middleton, Brown, Boucher
To Suns: Jimmy
To Toronto: Portis, Connaughton, Duncan Robinson, Gary Trent (add any minimum player you prefer from Milwaukee, they need to send a body to us because they can't aggregate Beal's salary using multiple players because they're 2nd apron)
If a couple of the 1sts floating around in this deal found their way to us, I'd do this. Portis would be a really nice 6th man/PF that we could probably get to extend (has a player option next year) and would be a nice piece. Connaughton has a PO as well, but is likely to opt in. He's kind of washed now, but there are worse things to have with this group than a mid bench veteran with championship experience that D's decently well. Robinson is overpaid, but can shoot the ball, and would be a legit option to start at SF for us....he would obviously not fix our defensive issues, but his salary would be a nice trade piece next year and we could use the shooting in the interim.
Bucks would get their guy and clear up some salary issues they've been trying to clear up (while creating another issue, but desperation is a hell of a drug). Heat would sort out the Jimmy issue and get some assets out of it without damaging the team much this season. Suns get their guy and clear up some salary issues, and the Raptors would get useful rotation veterans using cap space they otherwise were going to have to go into free agency in the summer to fill (and lock that in for 3-4 years to get good players with it) while likely mopping up some draft capital along the way.