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OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

Back in my we the north era "fuck tanking, you're all pussies" rants I mentioned that eventually there would come a time where Canada was producing a bunch of legitimately high end NBA players and some of them were going to start finding their way home. I'm telling you now, the end of the Kawhi era will start to intersect with that, because CanBall has arrived. What's Jamal up to at the end of this contract in 3 years? Shai is going to play his entire career in OKC?
 
The first time we traded for 1 year of Kawhi coming off major injury and it cost Demar ( better than Ingram) and one 1st

This time its 3 years granted age 35, but still like top 5 player in the NBA and it costs Ingram, Dick and 2 firsts.

We did not give up more this go around.
 
The first time we traded for 1 year of Kawhi coming off major injury and it cost Demar ( better than Ingram) and one 1st

This time its 3 years granted age 35, but still like top 5 player in the NBA and it costs Ingram, Dick and 2 firsts.

We did not give up more this go around.

People severely undervalue Demar Derozan when they say that. Demar was a flawed batman but he hasn't been scoring all of these buckets through out his career by fucking accident. Dude was a really good player. Way better than any version of Ingram that has ever existed.
 
As a general rule, the least risky thing a team could do is give up picks as far away from today as possible. I know circumstances are slightly different, but I still fail to see how you can call this high risk. They give up nothing other than the pick swap during the entire window. It's like getting an interest-free loan for a few years. The least risky loan you could acquire!

Paying up (as Zeke notes) a couple of likely average players in 5 and 7 years feels like a hilariously small price to pay.

It does remove their temptation of blowing it up and tanking in those years, but they'd have no reason to anyways and that rarely goes well. So maybe that's a good thing too.
 
I'll say this too re: the 2031 and 33 picks...the Clippers got too cute and fucked up here imo. The real risk for the Raptors to have a bad season is 2029 in the last year of Kawhi's deal. There's a timeline where Kawhi's knee is cooked by then, and we're stuck with the deal on our cap without any benefit from it, so are ostensibly trying to compete with a 60 million dollar hand tied behind our back. After that season though, we can re allocate the cap space and would have more than enough space for a max contract offer to a theoretical star available at the time.

The Clippers appear to be fixated on after Kawhi is gone being the problematic time period for us, when the real risk is while Kawhi is still here.
 
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