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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

worm

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This no radio thing is so weird in spring training. Their next TV broadcast is Friday, March 12, meaning there is no home team coverage of the Jays on radio for almost two weeks. If you want to listen, you have to tune into the Yankees, Phillies, Tigers, etc broadcast and hear them ramble on about their lineup, roster and prospects. How can this possibly be good for the brand?

In better news, Orelvis Martinez had his first spring training AB yesterday and singled. Martinez could be among the top prospects in baseball by the end of this year, IMO. He has all the tools.
and people complained about Bell
tsk tsk
 

Bleedsblue&white

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What a strange moment to pick to do something that can only be detrimental in regards to roping in new fans, I mean...I wonder if there are many people looking for things to occupy some time?
 

zeke

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Leafin'

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Would be super nice to have one or 2 of the young guys push themselves into a starting spot and be legit.
 

CaptainBolduke

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Shaprio calling an emergency staff meeting to get everyone in line with the Key Messages due to the Callaway story is all you need to know about what kinda person he actually is.
 

LeafGm

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What story?


Mickey Callaway, Cleveland’s pitching coach from 2010-2017, had been accused of habitual sexual harassment, and there’s a whole bunch of proof that everyone up to the top of the organization was aware of his behaviour and worked to help sweep it under the rug.

Since Shapiro was running the Indians during the first five years Callaway was employed there, this seems to suggest he was aware of this behaviour too, and either did nothing or helped cover it up.
 

Wayward DP

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Mickey Callaway, Cleveland’s pitching coach from 2010-2017, had been accused of habitual sexual harassment, and there’s a whole bunch of proof that everyone up to the top of the organization was aware of his behaviour and worked to help sweep it under the rug.

Since Shapiro was running the Indians during the first five years Callaway was employed there, this seems to suggest he was aware of this behaviour too, and either did nothing or helped cover it up.
oh shit. I hadn't made the Shapiro connection. not really surprising, guy is the embodiment of smarm.
 

WellPlayed

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Read an article describing Atkins and Callaway as friends. A report describes it as the "worst-kept secret in baseball" with a whole bunch of people stating for the report that they find it hard to believe management didn't know.

Could get ugly.

 

Wayward DP

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ha. it would amuse me greatly if this is what brings down the shatkins regime.

having said that, I do not expect anything to come of this as it relates to the Jays.
 

manny

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I sort of doubt anything will come of it. It is good to be having this discussion, but if the question is whether Atkins knew and should have done something, unless there is evidence that he knew of specific allegations and did nothing, I don't think there will be any impact on his job. If this was a Jays organization thing, then certainly, but it's not. Also, Atkins is saying the right things in terms of wanting more diversity and ensuring a good working environment for everyone. Obviously action would be better, but Shapiro and Atkins are charter members of the old boys network, they're not going to be ahead of the curve in hiring (or anything else for that matter).

I'm a bit skeptical why he says "I was not aware of these allegations" instead of "I was not aware of this behaviour" ). Or maybe he said both, I'm not going to watch 25 minutes of Ross Atkins.
 

Wayward DP

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I am like 95% confident that both Shapiro and Atkins knew about the allegations. They just didn't give two shits. Plus, they have a long history of spewing absolute nonsense so I am not sure why anyone would be inclined to believe what they say in this instance. Then again I am more cynical than most especially with regards to the current regime.
 

UWHabs

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I am like 95% confident that both Shapiro and Atkins knew about the allegations. They just didn't give two shits. Plus, they have a long history of spewing absolute nonsense so I am not sure why anyone would be inclined to believe what they say in this instance. Then again I am more cynical than most especially with regards to the current regime.

Yeah, there's times when I wish people could actually just say the truth. "No, we never saw him directly assault someone. Sure, people talked. But it was 2010, and baseball was still very much an old boys club, so obviously we weren't going to do anything about it. If we knew then what we know now, and if society then was like society today, things would have been different, yes."
 
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