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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

Yesavage is approaching legit elite prospect performance now.

AAA line at 21: 3.5ip/gm, 37.3k%, 15.3b%, 85era-, 50fip-, 80xfip-

That's already excellent but maybe even more impressive if you consider his first 1.2ip 2er 4bb AAA outing more of a blip.


Like the kind of good that makes you think he could help the rotation, not just the bullpen.
 
He was expecting a breaking ball and the pitcher fired a heater down the middle. Looks like he even quick-pitched him because he wasnt even set up.
 
zeke said:
He was expecting a breaking ball and the pitcher fired a heater down the middle. Looks like he even quick-pitched him because he wasnt even set up.
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Still surprises me that he isn’t quick or good enough to just catch it. But I guess it should be expected since the pitcher obviously intended it.
 
zeke said:
So Berrios was on 9 days rest yesterday. Which went about as well as it did for Lauer on 11 days rest his last start.

They really bungled this 6 man rotation situation.
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This is usually what happens when Schneider and his team try to do something creative and outside the box. It back fires.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Oh I have, but the one position I've never played is catcher, and, quelle surprise, I've never caught mlb pitchers.
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Ok, I will help you out here, because you have been having a tough week.

If you played baseball at a level higher than a 12-year-old or (13 maybe), you would have faced pitchers who were working on their "secondary" pitches (curveballs, sliders or HOPEFULLY changeups). Now hitting is hard, but if you know what is coming, it makes it a little easier, so pitchers work on not tipping pitches.

The best way not to tip pitches is to have the ball/pitches (fastball, changeup, curve, etc.) come out of the same arm angle and release point in the pitcher's windup, so they look like the same pitch until the ball gets close to the plate. Not have your fastball be thrown "over the top" and your curveball thrown sidearm.

Now, MLB pitchers have a lot of movement on their pitches. Their pitches don't always go in a straight line (even fastballs), and many of them have crazy break (left to right, right to left, and up and down) to them, making them harder to hit (and catch). Plus they throw in the high 90s so......

MLB catchers have caught their pitchers before, or have caught enough pitchers to know what certain pitches do. So they are judging in real time where the ball will end up by seeing where the ball is first released and knowing what pitch is coming. And even then, we have seen balls go off the side of catchers' mitts for passballs.

Now, do that while not knowing what pitch is coming or thinking it is a curveball instead of a fastball or vice versa. Good luck.
 
Pwner said:
Ok, I will help you out here, because you have been having a tough week.

If you played baseball at a level higher than a 12-year-old or (13 maybe), you would have faced pitchers who were working on their "secondary" pitches (curveballs, sliders or HOPEFULLY changeups). Now hitting is hard, but if you know what is coming, it makes it a little easier, so pitchers work on not tipping pitches.

The best way not to tip pitches is to have the ball/pitches (fastball, changeup, curve, etc.) come out of the same arm angle and release point in the pitcher's windup, so they look like the same pitch until the ball gets close to the plate. Not have your fastball be thrown "over the top" and your curveball thrown sidearm.

Now, MLB pitchers have a lot of movement on their pitches. Their pitches don't always go in a straight line (even fastballs), and many of them have crazy break (left to right, right to left, and up and down) to them, making them harder to hit (and catch). Plus they throw in the high 90s so......

MLB catchers have caught their pitchers before, or have caught enough pitchers to know what certain pitches do. So they are judging in real time where the ball will end up by seeing where the ball is first released and knowing what pitch is coming. And even then, we have seen balls go off the side of catchers' mitts for passballs.

Now, do that while not knowing what pitch is coming or thinking it is a curveball instead of a fastball or vice versa. Good luck.
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Thank you, captain meathead, for the unsolicited explanation.

I know what happened. I also know that it isn't the first time in history that a pitcher might've thrown a different pitch than expected, or it moved differently than expected, or whatever. The point is, it still surprised me that a big league catcher wouldn't be able to catch it if he didn't know exactly which pitch was coming.

Sorry you're having such a tough week.
 
zeke said:
thing is because of the new tech the whole team knows what pitch was called and apparently there was a big lockeroom kerfuffle
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Of course. It's the ultimate in poor sportsmanship. Blaming a teammate for your own fuck up, doing so publicly, doing something in a way that showed no regard to maybe injuring your teammate if this was the intended result. Bad all around, and through and through. I'm sure it's also not the only instance of him being a shithead, which his teammates know about, but the public doesn't.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Thank you, captain meathead, for the unsolicited explanation.

I know what happened. I also know that it isn't the first time in history that a pitcher might've thrown a different pitch than expected, or it moved differently than expected, or whatever. The point is, it still surprised me that a big league catcher wouldn't be able to catch it if he didn't know exactly which pitch was coming.

Sorry you're having such a tough week.
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How can you fucking know

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And like, why the hell would he prepare for something weird? It's one thing when you're at the plate, you're guessing. Guys look completely foolish when they guess wrong, and the pitch comes in.

But there's no reason for the catcher to suspect something weird is coming in. He told him to throw a curve, so your brain just goes into autopilot expecting it to act like every other curveball you've caught from him before. By the time you realize it's not moving how you expect it to, then it's way too late to react.
 
It’s also harder to catch something unexpected because of the way catchers frame pitches now. They drop the target briefly after the ball is released. Easy to drill a guy if you want to but you don’t see it because why the hell would someone do that to their own pitcher?
 
zeke said:
Yesavage is approaching legit elite prospect performance now.

AAA line at 21: 3.5ip/gm, 37.3k%, 15.3b%, 85era-, 50fip-, 80xfip-

That's already excellent but maybe even more impressive if you consider his first 1.2ip 2er 4bb AAA outing more of a blip.


Like the kind of good that makes you think he could help the rotation, not just the bullpen.
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Does he qualify for a call up
 
zeke said:
thing is because of the new tech the whole team knows what pitch was called and apparently there was a big lockeroom kerfuffle
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Valdez is being a big bitch, and should have stepped off when his catcher told him to step off, threw when he shouldn't have and got smacked.

Then blamed it like a bitch on his catcher for trying to get him to do a thing that he didn't listen to.
 
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