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OT: Vacations

Anyone been to Portugal? If so how is it and any recommendations?

Thinking of booking an Algarve/Lisbon/Barcelona 2 week trip for early fall. I'd get the hotels covered through credit card churning (all five star) and the flights will likely be under 900 bucks to go to Portugal, to Spain, and back to toronto. I've already sold $2000 worth of points this year (with far more to come) so it's essentially a free trip. Been to a lot of Europe so I though Portugal is the next logical spot. Any advice?
 
Went to Portugal and Spain 2 years ago and really enjoyed the trip. Things are (relatively) cheap, people are very nice and very helpful, and most people speak a reasonable amount of English. Would highly recommend Lisbon and Portugal.

BTW there are annual sales on SATA to Lisbon for ~ $CDN600-700 (incl. tax and all fees) if you wait. Once you're in Portugal, flights to Barcelona are very cheap (around $100)
 
Went to Portugal and Spain 2 years ago and really enjoyed the trip. Things are (relatively) cheap, people are very nice and very helpful, and most people speak a reasonable amount of English. Would highly recommend Lisbon and Portugal.

BTW there are annual sales on SATA to Lisbon for ~ $CDN600-700 (incl. tax and all fees) if you wait. Once you're in Portugal, flights to Barcelona are very cheap (around $100)

After some digging I found that I was able to grab a flight from Toronto to Faro, Lisbon to Barcelona and then Barcelona to Toronto for about 890 a pop. Are the round trip deals you're mentioning 600-700? It may be a little more convenient for us to fly to Faro... But man that is a really good deal.

Glad to hear that though. I am really excited for Lisbon in particular.
 
After some digging I found that I was able to grab a flight from Toronto to Faro, Lisbon to Barcelona and then Barcelona to Toronto for about 890 a pop. Are the round trip deals you're mentioning 600-700? It may be a little more convenient for us to fly to Faro... But man that is a really good deal.

Glad to hear that though. I am really excited for Lisbon in particular.

Getting the whole thing for 900 is probably fairly solid if you have the other internal connections too, especially if that's on a full-service carrier. But there are a few carriers that serve Portugal, and being the closest Europe stop you can often get the overseas leg for quite cheap, especially if you're not in peak season. I mean, if you want to fly cheap you can probably get Ryanair flights for like 20 bucks, but bags add up steep on top of that price.
 
Getting the whole thing for 900 is probably fairly solid if you have the other internal connections too, especially if that's on a full-service carrier. But there are a few carriers that serve Portugal, and being the closest Europe stop you can often get the overseas leg for quite cheap, especially if you're not in peak season. I mean, if you want to fly cheap you can probably get Ryanair flights for like 20 bucks, but bags add up steep on top of that price.

Yeah actually one of the flights is on Primera air and Ryenair. The lowest of the low and the rest is air tap Portugal. Also fairly budget. I won't be checking any bags though so I don't mind going budget on the flights. 900 seems like a decent enough deal but I'm still a long ways out. Doesn't hurt to wait.. hopefully. The euro being so strong right now has some impact on the prices too.
 
$900 for everything round trip is very good ... I remember I flew to Lisbon return for $650, and that was a direct flight on SATA. But that was 2 years ago too. And then I got other short hop local flights for ~ $100 each, and those do add up too.
 
Anyone been to Utila? Going diving there for about a week around Easter. Flights are booked ($650 r/t from Toronto to San Pedro Sula), looking into accommodations and dive packages now.
 
I just went last month for a helicopter ride to the Grand Canyon. That crash yesterday kind of freaks me out. It was with the same company.
 
I'm going to Barbados and Grenada next month. Need a break.

i feel you. work has been a shit sandwich for a few months, need a break. Still haven't completely decided where I'm going next week but I'm looking forward to it regardless of where I go.
 
jealous

might go to japan this spring

but most likely sometime next year

looking forward to hearing about it
 
I am there for 14 days. Planning on staying in Tokyo and Kyoto and moving around from there.

I'll let you know where I went and the things I enjoyed the most and least:

Flew into Osaka - stayed there for four nights. Loved it there! If you're into a gritty urban vibe with unbelievable food (the best in Japan imo) you would love Osaka. It just had a different feel to it than everywhere else we went. Would definitely recommend. The aquarium is pretty cool too although not much better than Toronto's. Would recommend regardless.

Trained to Kyoto to stay for five nights. More of a sight seeing place. I liked it, very natury and touristy. My favorite part of Kyoto was the bamboo forest and monkey park on the top of the mountain. Get a nice view and hang out with monkeys at the same time? Was a great day. It was here where I activated my 7 day JR pass (would recommend if the math checks out) and went to Kobe for a reservation that we had for a steak dinner. Reasonably priced for what you get and it was a life changing experience. Restaurant is called La Shomon. Overall Kyoto was alright. People seem to either love it or not he a huge fan. I was temple'd out by like day 2 personally. It was nice and all but out of everywhere it was my least favorite city. Very picturesque though so take lots of pictures. It is beautiful.

Then went to Hiroshima for two nights. First night we visited the Peace Museum and hung out around the streets of Hiroshima. Museum was 10/10 and Hiroshima is a very nice city overall. Next day we went to Miyajima island. 10/10 as well. Climbed mount misen, ate some oysters. Typical day in Japan.

And from there we took the train to hakone to relax a bit at a ryokan. Onsen was nice and refreshing (although not a must-do) and the kaiseki style meal was a once in a lifetime experience. Would go again just for that. It was included in the price for the night.

On that leg I transported my luggage from my Hiroshima hotel to my Tokyo hotel so I did not have to carry them around in hakone. Japan has an unbelievably efficient system for luggage transport - talk to your hotel for that, it's life changing. And cheap!

I then went to Tokyo for 7 nights. Found Shibuya over crowded and overrated. Shinjuku was more my scene; almost Osaka style urban grit and a bitch ass red light district (feels amazingly safe). I recommend Shinjuku Gyoen. Tokyo was mostly wandering through the different districts. Loved it outside of Shibuya. You can take day trips to Kamakura (mini Kyoto so if you're going to Kyoto already I do not recommend) or Mount Takeo to get away from the urban life for a bit. I didn't do either but they were options. Overall Tokyo didn't really have one thing that stood out.. it's the sum of the parts for me. Never a full moment and each district had its own feel and charm. Wander as much as possible there.

My favorites were osaka and Tokyo. I feel like I'd never run out of things to do in either city. Hiroshima for two nights was perfect and hakone was perfect for one night although imo not a must-do. Kyoto for five nights was too long for me personally but there is more than enough to do there for at least 7 days. If you're into sight seeing and visiting various temples I definitely recommend it. Just make a day trip to Osaka and if you want to, making a pitstop for a night in hakone isn't a bad idea before hitting Tokyo.

Last words of advice: bring good comfy walking shoes. There will be walking. And a lot of it.

And pack light. Its not a third world country. You can buy anything there. And you can do laundry there or **** it, handwashyour shit. You don't want to be lugging around heavy shit in Japan.
 
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I was an exchange student in japan for 1 year, so needless to say to me 14 days is pretty short ... but you can definitely see some sides of Japan in that time as well.

Of all the Japanese cities, Tokyo is probably the city I enjoy the least. It's just another metropolitan city which is not all that different from Paris, London, etc.

I'd actually suggest to travel southern Japan and do Osaka, Kyoto and Nagoya instead of Tokyo if you are to spend 14 days there. You'll get a taste of a modern Japanese metropolitan (Osaka), an old Japanese city (Kyoto, which was the former capital of Japan before the 1800's?) and also a cultural city in Nagoya. You can also find a lot of 'onsan' hot spring resort towns between Kyoto and Osaka, which is always good to stay for 1 night or 2, and you can experience old city life in Japan.
 
I was there last summer.

Piss alley in shinjuku is a great spot to get wasted. Definitely check out the fish market.

Miyajima is a great reco.

I stayed at a ryokan in the Fuji range that was amazing -scenery was incredible plus they have private onsens (ie not gender segregated) if you’re going with a missus or meet a friend while traveling. It was $$$$ - let me know if you’re interested and I can dig up the name.

Caught a ball game in Osaka (easier to get tix than in Tokyo). Donburi and the restos in Osaka were great but it really felt like Tokyo light to me.

Loved Kyoto. Lots of the city is very touristy (and some of the best stuff to do there is hard to get access to as an outsider), and you can get templed out, but scenically its a gorgeous city and culturally it’s a nice change of pace from Osaka and Tokyo.

Also download the hyperdia app right before you go (only get 30 days for free so don’t download too far in advance). It aggregates the entire rail network (including subways etc) and calculates fees, so is indispensable for getting around.
 
Hyperdia saved my life. Google maps was great and all but hyperdia was the app of the trip. Especially for my trip from Hiroshima to hakone to Tokyo.
 
Oh yeah, 1 more thing ... buy JR Rail pass before you go to Japan. It gives you access to all JR trains and subways (but only JR subways) ... once you're in Japan you can't buy it.
 
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