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OT: World Politics

Wayward DP said:

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Notably though, American diplomats met with other potential challengers to Zelensky. Yulia Timoshenko and Petro Poroshenko. The corrupt old guard who helped Ukraine get into this mess in the first place. They haven't met with Zaluzhnyi that we're aware of to discuss challenging Zelensky. Which tracks, because Russia would much prefer dealing with them than Zaluzhnyi

Zaluzhnyi could maybe beat Zelensky in an election, but he would be more of a hawk and less of a statesman than Zelensky has been.
 
Yeah, if our choices are between two world economic powers, and both are corrosive to democratic freedom...but one is smart, pragmatic and predictable, while the other has a child's understanding of everything and also their temperment, I'll align with the one we can at least plan next year's budget around.

With all of that said, the obvious way forward is deep integration with other democratic nations though, and then working through that bloc to try to pull the global south in our direction. Latin America specifically is more of a natural ally to a European "world order" than an American one imo. The two largest and most powerful economies in latin america have been interfered with by the US for decades and don't have much love for American leadership, both are growing democracies who have diverse economies that would have strong synergy with the a democratic bloc of EU/UK/Canada/AU.
 
yeah absolutely crucial is getting together with europe uk and australia.

then try to chip away at south and central america, though that's a much tougher slog.

there might be a way to chip away at the asian bloq too - japan and s.korea would be natural allies but very risky for them to not have the clear backing of a military superpower, and maybe there's away to move up from the south via australia's neighbours indonesia and then maybe signapore - but maybe that's a pipe dream.
 
zeke said:
then try to chip away at south and central america, though that's a much tougher slog.
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A bit tougher yeah, but as long as we don't have the type of preconditions that dealing with the US comes with I think there's a lot of room there. Mexico would love to diversify their export economy (80% of exports go to the US). Brazil would be harder, but that's mostly because they've already gotten into bed with BRICS but there would be room to push into them as an energy importer imo. They already do fairly robust trade with the EU fwiw, so I think a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done. Something to remember really is that BRICS basically doesn't exist aside from being a group of nations who do some basic cooperation as a way to counter US soft power. Well...US soft power is a smoking crater that they had nothing to do with creating, so mission accomplished I guess?

Mexico tbh, is in a really similar position to what we're in. Where by virtue of geography, the US is always going to be the most convenient customer to deal with, but like us they know that they can't rely on the relationship blindly anymore. They're looking for friends the way we are, but without having the historic ties to Europe that we have. Mexico will look to China if we can't provide them with a better alternative, which we can.
 
MindzEye said:
Nobody actually wants him replaced though.
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i can think of 2 people

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