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Playoff GDT: Round 3, Game 4 Canes @ Habs 5/27 8:00

Mike's call of the Aho goal last night got him yet another play of the day on the Dan Patrick Show. This may be number 4 for this playoff run.
 
NoMich said:
Overall, I've been happy with the entire D corp this playoff season. Boom wasn't really himself after the concussion, but he looked more confident last night.
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Nikishin found his legs again in Game 3 and then took off last night. That concussion took a bigger toll on him than anybody has been willing to discuss. But with all three pairings firing, the D has done what it was designed to do.

And that’s something else nobody seems to want to talk about yet. Carolina’s D group had what? 25 games together where everybody was mostly fully functional? Something like that. Miller missed camp with a knee injury and tweaked it a couple of times early in the fall. Slavin missed camp with whatever it is they’re not talking about (it was a knee injury) and then re-injured it a couple of games into the regular season. He may have come back to play his way into game shape before the Olympics, but it was fully March before he started to move comfortably enough to do all the Slavin things. Ghost was in and out of the lineup all season with a groin problem. Nikishin is a rookie and was going through all the normal rookie stuff. Chatfield and Walker had relatively normal seasons, but they’re the only ones, and they are essentially support staff in this setup. When that 6 man unit is firing, this is a different team and they can be effective doing all sorts of different things with their schemes.
 
CanadaCanes said:
I could not help but see flashbacks of the past two years worth of ECF's when the Canes were bitch slapped around by Florida and looked so frustrated and defeated...that was what Montreal looked like last night.
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Funny, I told my wife that last night. I said this looks eerily familiar...like exactly.....except we were the ones playing like Montreal did last night.
 
Yeah … or Boston in 2018. Same kind of deal. When you just can’t find any space to do your thing.
 
And then fans and pundits say: But the games were close. Some went to OT. We’re really close. …. No, you’re not. Not that it will assuredly take several seasons to close that gap. But you’re not close right now.
 
bagopux said:
And then fans and pundits say: But the games were close. Some went to OT. We’re really close. …. No, you’re not. Not that it will assuredly take several seasons to close that gap. But you’re not close right now.
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You do realize the refs have been cheating for the Canes the whole series right?
 
It's not like we don't whine about the officiating. What gets me is that there are that many Habs fans who feel the only reason the Habs are down 3-1 in the series is because of lopsided officiating. Yeah, that is the only problem, it's the damn referees out to get the Habs.
 
cmaleski2 said:
It's not like we don't whine about the officiating. What gets me is that there are that many Habs fans who feel the only reason the Habs are down 3-1 in the series is because of lopsided officiating. Yeah, that is the only problem, it's the damn referees out to get the Habs.
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Those pesky refs blocking all those shots the Habs are taking and turning the puck over in Montreal's end.....
 
cmaleski2 said:
It's not like we don't whine about the officiating. What gets me is that there are that many Habs fans who feel the only reason the Habs are down 3-1 in the series is because of lopsided officiating. Yeah, that is the only problem, it's the damn referees out to get the Habs.
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We do … and they do seem to be taking it to a new level. I’m, of course, willing to allow that NHL officiating sucks. I do NOT subscribe to the idea that they have in any way had their thumb on the scales in this series. 90% of what they “miss” is missed for game management reasons and the rest is stuff they just don’t see. That ain’t changing, as it’s been the post pandemic norm. The more cynical teams (looking mostly at Tampa and Florida here) take advantage by figuring … correctly for the most part … that the refs won’t want to call 50 penalties in a period so they just go hog wild out there. Game management can’t handle that kind of volume. Carolina doesn’t do that and isn’t doing that. They ARE hitting more than they normally do, because playoffs. And when you throw a lot of checks, sometimes the contact gets awkward, high and otherwise wonky. But c’mon … that’s not what’s going wrong for Montreal. That’s excuse making.
 
jeffbear said:
We do … and they do seem to be taking it to a new level. I’m, of course, willing to allow that NHL officiating sucks. I do NOT subscribe to the idea that they have in any way had their thumb on the scales in this series. 90% of what they “miss” is missed for game management reasons and the rest is stuff they just don’t see. That ain’t changing, as it’s been the post pandemic norm. The more cynical teams (looking mostly at Tampa and Florida here) take advantage by figuring … correctly for the most part … that the refs won’t want to call 50 penalties in a period so they just go hog wild out there. Game management can’t handle that kind of volume. Carolina doesn’t do that and isn’t doing that. They ARE hitting more than they normally do, because playoffs. And when you throw a lot of checks, sometimes the contact gets awkward, high and otherwise wonky. But c’mon … that’s not what’s going wrong for Montreal. That’s excuse making.
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Game management would stop eventually if they did call those 50 penalties - teams would actually adjust because THEY WOULD HAVE TOO. Just like the diving/laying on the ground dying BS in soccer (MLS) that they remedied for the most part with the time rule and cards....or the strike/ball penalties for pitch clock violations in baseball. If they want to fix this, they can...it is really simple. But they choose not to and I choose to tell them how much they suck every single night until they do,.
 
jeffbear said:
We do … and they do seem to be taking it to a new level. I’m, of course, willing to allow that NHL officiating sucks. I do NOT subscribe to the idea that they have in any way had their thumb on the scales in this series. 90% of what they “miss” is missed for game management reasons and the rest is stuff they just don’t see. That ain’t changing, as it’s been the post pandemic norm. The more cynical teams (looking mostly at Tampa and Florida here) take advantage by figuring … correctly for the most part … that the refs won’t want to call 50 penalties in a period so they just go hog wild out there. Game management can’t handle that kind of volume. Carolina doesn’t do that and isn’t doing that. They ARE hitting more than they normally do, because playoffs. And when you throw a lot of checks, sometimes the contact gets awkward, high and otherwise wonky. But c’mon … that’s not what’s going wrong for Montreal. That’s excuse making.
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Credit where credit is due, I feel like the two guys last night, Rooney and Skilliter did a great job, most of those penalties they called were the blatant 'you give me no choice' calls like the Anderson roughing penalty, the Danault cross check to the face on Staal and the cross check dental check on Ehlers.
 
Fayettenamcanesfan said:
Game management would stop eventually if they did call those 50 penalties - teams would actually adjust because THEY WOULD HAVE TOO. Just like the diving/laying on the ground dying BS in soccer (MLS) that they remedied for the most part with the time rule and cards....or the strike/ball penalties for pitch clock violations in baseball. If they want to fix this, they can...it is really simple. But they choose not to and I choose to tell them how much they suck every single night until they do,.
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Yeah, that happened once in my lifetime … coming out of the work stopage when we lost the 2004-05 season. For 2005-06 they changed emphasis and called absolutely everything early in the season. By opening night in 2006-07 it was right back to normal, although the previous year HAD reduced the amount of hooking and holding dramatically.
 
CanadaCanes said:
Credit where credit is due, I feel like the two guys last night, Rooney and Skilliter did a great job, most of those penalties they called were the blatant 'you give me no choice' calls like the Anderson roughing penalty, the Danault cross check to the face on Staal and the cross check dental check on Ehlers.
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They indulged in some management (see the cross checking sequence fairly early in the first involving Ehlers where he got blatantly whacked in the back and then returned the favor with no call on either player), but they DID manage to keep it fairly sensible. WAY better than any game we’ve seen involving that gasbag Charron. Oh, and they WANTED to let that cross check toEhlers’ mouth slide, but the severity of it kind of forced their hand.
 
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