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The Fucking Season Thread - Redemption Tour '22

Damage is already done. He's on a team that can win it all. May be his final chance at it.

Gotta just lace em up and go for it, imo. Then retire in the summer.
 
I'm just saying that if I were in his position, I'd say it is what it is and let's just squeeze as much out of this year as I can.

Win a Cup and that should provide great incentive to call it quits if the docs are telling him to hang them up.

Chances are he won't sustain yet another concussion if he comes back for this season, so the damage is whatever it is at the moment. Press on.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I'm just saying that if I were in his position, I'd say it is what it is and let's just squeeze as much out of this year as I can.

Win a Cup and that should provide great incentive to call it quits if the docs are telling him to hang them up.

Chances are he won't sustain yet another concussion if he comes back for this season, so the damage is whatever it is at the moment. Press on.
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Or retire with less brain damage with millions hopefully in the bank. Go to an island and relax the rest of your life.
 
~11m in career earnings, after taxes, agent fees, escrow, etc. he maybe cleared $4m if lucky + most athletes live a very expensive lifestyle so unless he invested well he is likely worth a lot less than that. Not sure he built enough wealth to retire comfortably. But having a functioning brain is probably more important.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I'm just saying that if I were in his position, I'd say it is what it is and let's just squeeze as much out of this year as I can.

Win a Cup and that should provide great incentive to call it quits if the docs are telling him to hang them up.

Chances are he won't sustain yet another concussion if he comes back for this season, so the damage is whatever it is at the moment. Press on.
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I think it's more likely that he risks his brain to come back so that he gets another contract next year as opposed to risking his brain for a cup and then retiring after without any extra money in the bank. This is a dude that is on the fringe of being financially set in his 20s and he may feel like retiring now means he'll have to find another job at some point. I think you over-estimate the importance a lot of these guys place in winning a cup and under-estimate how much they like being paid. Retiring at 30 ain't easy for most NHLers; they just don't make enough. Most occupations have 30 years on them of generating wealth.
 
Preston said:
~11m in career earnings, after taxes, agent fees, escrow, etc. he maybe cleared $4m if lucky + most athletes live a very expensive lifestyle so unless he invested well he is likely worth a lot less than that. Not sure he built enough wealth to retire comfortably. But having a functioning brain is probably more important.
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If he goes home to Czechia though...those USD will go pretty far. He can also start drawing his NHLPA pension at 45. Every 20 games of NHL service accrues 1/4 year of a 250K annual pension. Even if Kase is done done, he'll still walk away pretty comfortable. Give me a good condo, 1 million USD and a 750K pension and I'd worry about nothing until they buried me.
 
Preston said:
I think it's more likely that he risks his brain to come back so that he gets another contract next year as opposed to risking his brain for a cup and then retiring after without any extra money in the bank. This is a dude that is on the fringe of being financially set in his 20s and he may feel like retiring now means he'll have to find another job at some point. I think you over-estimate the importance a lot of these guys place in winning a cup and under-estimate how much they like being paid. Retiring at 30 ain't easy for most NHLers; they just don't make enough. Most occupations have 30 years on them of generating wealth.
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Yeah, my money is on him coming back with us next season unless the doctors basically tell him he's risking very, very serious long term cognitive issues. Squeaking out another 2-3 years in the show and making another 3-4 million would make a huge difference later in life. A 1 million dollar DRIP will earn you 40K no problem. A 3-4 million dollar DRIP obviously allows for a bit more flexibility in lifestyle.
 
MindzEye said:
If he goes home to Czechia though...those USD will go pretty far. He can also start drawing his NHLPA pension at 45. Every 20 games of NHL service accrues 1/4 year of a 250K annual pension. Even if Kase is done done, he'll still walk away pretty comfortable. Give me a good condo, 1 million USD and a 750K pension and I'd worry about nothing until they buried me.
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Can absolutely make it work with proper spending habits. A lot of guys in the show spend like the money will be pouring in for the next 30+ years and end up broke shortly after retiring. Those spending habits are hard to break too.
 
Preston said:
I think it's more likely that he risks his brain to come back so that he gets another contract next year as opposed to risking his brain for a cup and then retiring after without any extra money in the bank. This is a dude that is on the fringe of being financially set in his 20s and he may feel like retiring now means he'll have to find another job at some point. I think you over-estimate the importance a lot of these guys place in winning a cup and under-estimate how much they like being paid. Retiring at 30 ain't easy for most NHLers; they just don't make enough. Most occupations have 30 years on them of generating wealth.
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Yep, I remember a former NFL'er say you'd be surprised how many of these guys hate football. What they do like is the paycheques and the spotlight.

It's the most dangerous sport so it makes sense, and there are obviously guys who love the game in every sport.
 
axlsalinger said:
Yep, I remember a former NFL'er say you'd be surprised how many of these guys hate football. What they do like is the paycheques and the spotlight.

It's the most dangerous sport so it makes sense, and there are obviously guys who love the game in every sport.
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Heard similar with ex-NHLers. Most can't even be in a rink for years post-retirement because of how much they hate just the smell of it by the end of their careers. Guys like Spezza are the exception, not the rule. But at the end of the day the illusion that fans have that these guys will play for free if it means they can win a cup is cute, but not quite factual. Of course they prefer winning but money comes first 11 times out of 10. And for the fringe guys who make 2-4m and clear ~$1m per year, there is an incredible amount of pressure for them to get that next contract to secure their financial future as much as possible. Those are the guys that likely struggle the most post-career. They often have shorter careers and if they're spending like they have unlimited money as many athletes do, it won't last them long post-retirement.
 
axlsalinger said:
Yep, I remember a former NFL'er say you'd be surprised how many of these guys hate football. What they do like is the paycheques and the spotlight.

It's the most dangerous sport so it makes sense, and there are obviously guys who love the game in every sport.
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the Andre Agassi book was an eye opener

There are guys like that in every sport. It was fun at 14; not as much fun at 24…. But what are else are you going to do?

Drouin of the Habs seems like a guy who hates playing. I suspect Scott Gomez just drifted into irrelevance as soon as it became hard/not worth the extra coin to him (made about $60M)
 
Preston said:
I think it's more likely that he risks his brain to come back so that he gets another contract next year as opposed to risking his brain for a cup and then retiring after without any extra money in the bank. This is a dude that is on the fringe of being financially set in his 20s and he may feel like retiring now means he'll have to find another job at some point. I think you over-estimate the importance a lot of these guys place in winning a cup and under-estimate how much they like being paid. Retiring at 30 ain't easy for most NHLers; they just don't make enough. Most occupations have 30 years on them of generating wealth.
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I don't disagree with any of that. I was discounting it, however, on the assumption that he values his functioning brain more than a few bucks to play beyond this season. I'd probably make that choice if the doctors were strongly recommending it. But for just this season, while under contract with this awesome team, if possible, I'd risk getting back in the lineup and playing to win the Cup and then more fully assessing the future in the offseason.
 
Preston said:
Can absolutely make it work with proper spending habits. A lot of guys in the show spend like the money will be pouring in for the next 30+ years and end up broke shortly after retiring. Those spending habits are hard to break too.
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Maybe, if he's developed those. He's never made "real" NHL money, so who knows.
 
Preston said:
~11m in career earnings, after taxes, agent fees, escrow, etc. he maybe cleared $4m if lucky + most athletes live a very expensive lifestyle so unless he invested well he is likely worth a lot less than that. Not sure he built enough wealth to retire comfortably. But having a functioning brain is probably more important.
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invest that in pot stocks and then live the good life
 
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