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The ****ing Offseason Thread - 2016

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Kristen Shilton ‏@kristen_shilton 5m5 minutes ago
On Stephane Robidas: He did not pass his physical and will be unable to play this season (1/2)

Kristen Shilton ‏@kristen_shilton 5m5 minutes ago
(2/2): Lou felt he is a great pro/teacher to have around young players so he'll be around team, but with no official title in front office.
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If he failed his physical, I guess that means the option to put him on LTIR is there for the team.
 
LeafGm said:
More Robidas news:



If he failed his physical, I guess that means the option to put him on LTIR is there for the team.
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Yes. They didn't need to last year -- they had tonnes of cap flexibility. This season will obviously be a little tighter, so he will likely be heading to LTIR. I believe the main problem with LTIR is that players are expected to rehabilitate. This obviously isn't fluid, but there's some sort of paperwork that has to be updated to show that the player is attempting to rehab and the team isn't manipulating / circumventing the cap. I think in Robidas and Horton's situation, there's more flexibility and acknowledgement that they aren't coming back.
 
Going to be an interesting year kids, a lot of expiring salary playing for their next contract (and some just dead like Robidas):

Laich - 4.5
Michalek - 4.0
Greening - 2.65
Robidas - 3.0
Polak - 2.25
Hunwick - 1.25
Holland - 1.30

I wouldn't be surprised if we got some excellent performances out of a few of them. But regardless, almost 19M in cap space from this group, with a bunch of cheap kids likely pushing in to replace them.
 
Michalek can be a decent player. He's the only one out of that group that I could really see giving us more than bottom pair D/bottom 3 or 4 forward type performance. but even then, he has to actually be healthy.
 
hockeeyyy said:
Yes. They didn't need to last year -- they had tonnes of cap flexibility. This season will obviously be a little tighter, so he will likely be heading to LTIR. I believe the main problem with LTIR is that players are expected to rehabilitate. This obviously isn't fluid, but there's some sort of paperwork that has to be updated to show that the player is attempting to rehab and the team isn't manipulating / circumventing the cap. I think in Robidas and Horton's situation, there's more flexibility and acknowledgement that they aren't coming back.
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horton's easier to deal with because he isn't in the 35+ category.

given that the leafs are now paying robidas $3m to not sign his retirement papers - if he were to sign them that $3m hit would count - i think some questions are going to be raised.
 
MindzEye said:
Going to be an interesting year kids, a lot of expiring salary playing for their next contract (and some just dead like Robidas):

Laich - 4.5
Michalek - 4.0
Greening - 2.65
Robidas - 3.0
Polak - 2.25
Hunwick - 1.25
Holland - 1.30

I wouldn't be surprised if we got some excellent performances out of a few of them. But regardless, almost 19M in cap space from this group, with a bunch of cheap kids likely pushing in to replace them.
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thing is, the motley group they assembled last year was filled with guys who were proven possession drivers. whatever they lacked in offensive talent they could at least be depended on to generate more shots/chances than the opposition. greening, polak, hunwick, holland are the complete opposite. those guys do a lot of running around in their own zone.

that's the one thing i think is going to hurt this year. no doubt, this will be a more talented and better offensive team than the 15-16 leafs. but they could have some problems in their own zone.
 
Laich, Michalek, Martin and Greening are reasonable replacements for Boyes, Matthais, Winnik and Grabner. Way more expensive though.

The key will be how good/bad the kids are possession wise. Especially the dmen.
 
The cap is kind of a mess. Cowen's non-boyout ****ed them a bit. They also took a $500k overage penalty for LTIR/bonuses last year. Pridham is going to have to earn his paycheck this year. Especially if they can't LTIR Lupul, Robidas and/or Cowen.

They have one of the best cap situations in the league after this year though. All their best players are cheap, and Lupul will be the only bad contract. Maybe Andersen.
 
Our cap situation is tight, but it's not so bad. Either Cowen will get bought out, or we'll demote him to save $900K in cap space, or he's legitimately injured and we can put him on LTIR if we need the space.

Waiving Lupul and Greening also clears another $1.6M in cap space.

zeke said:
Andersen still fills me with dread.
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Yeah, I don't have much faith in him either. Just no track record of being an above-average goalie when handling a starter's workload. I hope he proves me wrong.
 
mbow30 said:
actually, philly might have been ltir'ing him, so maybe i'm incorrect.
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Yeah, think they were. And Boston LTIR'd Savard and Lou LTIR'd Mogilny back in the day. So as much as it might raise eyebrows, the doctors just need to confirm Robidas has an injury preventing him from so much as skating in the past year, no?
 
savard signed before 35. i think a neutral dr has to make the call on whether they can play or not...
 
mbow30 said:
savard signed before 35. i think a neutral dr has to make the call on whether they can play or not...
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He's a 39 year old with a knee, sports hernia and two broken legs in the past couple years and just failed his physical so I'm guessing the neutral doctor would sign off too.
 
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