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The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

Seriously! I was captain of the catastrophe brigade from the trade deadline on and even I have the willpower to homer it up right now. They didn't lose Billy Beane for Peter Chiarelli. Relax, folks. They fired a fake nerd and hired a fake nerd. Same people. Probably a fairly lateral move with some upside for more.
 
Unlike many here that were afraid, I predicted ages ago that Leafs would not abandon nerdies if/when Dubas was replaced. There’s no going back.
 
Preston said:
Seriously! I was captain of the catastrophe brigade from the trade deadline on and even I have the willpower to homer it up right now. They didn't lose Billy Beane for Peter Chiarelli. Relax, folks. They fired a fake nerd and hired a fake nerd. Same people. Probably a fairly lateral move with some upside for more.
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Wasn't Treliving buried pretty bad for years on here though? Not like people loved him and wanted him and now say he sucks.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
Preston as calm voice of reason is not the timeline I asked for
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I mean look around the league.. Every single option out there comes with tremendous baggage. No GM out there hasn't made some hilariously horrible moves, Kyle included. So you take what you take, surround him with the right staff, and continue on with the apparently collaborative culture that Shanny built. They have a large staff for a reason. Having a GM with some balls will be an upgrade and if Pridham stays he can keep him in check from doing anything crazy contract-wise.

Not to mention, this is a GM that ran an incredibly successful scouting draft. The D that he drafted was eye popping. Hope he can replicate that in Toronto.
 
So for quite a while now, every season start saw Calgary getting all kinds of love from Canadian Sports Media...every year we heard the glowing reviews yeah?
 
Preston said:
I mean look around the league.. Every single option out there comes with tremendous baggage. No GM out there hasn't made some hilariously horrible moves, Kyle included. So you take what you take, surround him with the right staff, and continue on with the apparently collaborative culture that Shanny built. They have a large staff for a reason. Having a GM with some balls will be an upgrade and if Pridham stays he can keep him in check from doing anything crazy contract-wise.

Not to mention, this is a GM that ran an incredibly successful scouting draft. The D that he drafted was eye popping. Hope he can replicate that in Toronto.
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Stop being so damn sensible. I miss the weirdo that i thought was a pegging enthusiast

That said when i mentioned Nill's drafting you told me it was the least important thing you were looking at in a candidate because it really was on the scouts, and it had no immediate benefit. So uh, fuck you, cock, i guess.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
Stop being so damn sensible. I miss the weirdo that i thought was a pegging enthusiast

That said when i mentioned Nill's drafting you told me it was the least important thing you were looking at in a candidate because it really was on the scouts, and it had no immediate benefit. So uh, fuck you, cock, i guess.
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Out of everything, yeah. It is the least important thing because it's the thing they have least control over. But it doesn't mean it's nothing. I mean we saw what kind of impact Mark Hunter and Brian Burke had on Leafs drafts.. Slow plugging tree bitches across the board. So I just want my GM to value skill. Set the mandate to your scouts to find the right type of player, etc. Outside of that, yeah their impact is minimal. But Treliving passes that simple test which puts him above a lot of GMs out there.

He also highly values analytics, which puts him above even more GMs out there. And he's aggressive/has some balls which puts him above Kyle. He's a younger GM so he hopefully learned some lessons and will adapt now that he's with a team that has a unique cap structure.. But the point is he values the right things and that's more than half the battle. Status quo wasn't quite working. Kyle couldn't put them over the top. So I see no issues with going to a more aggressive GM that is less afraid of taking big swings. Surrounded by the right staff, this could be the missing ingredient here.
 
Preston said:
Out of everything, yeah. It is the least important thing because it's the thing they have least control over. But it doesn't mean it's nothing. I mean we saw what kind of impact Mark Hunter and Brian Burke had on Leafs drafts.. Slow plugging tree bitches across the board. So I just want my GM to value skill. Set the mandate to your scouts to find the right type of player, etc. Outside of that, yeah their impact is minimal. But Treliving passes that simple test which puts him above a lot of GMs out there.
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I feel like you and I have been on the Treliving isnt so bad train since it left the station (that said, who the hell knows, i know i dont pay attention to what i say, damn sure know no one else does) The idea that he was in the chia, bergy, rape mayor tier was absurd. He's not a super nerd with no experience ( though the notion that gm with mistakes>gm who hasnt made mistakes yet is better seems silly to me) Assuming Nill wasnt an option i only think i like Botterill, and Shero more as far as experienced dudes go, and it's marginal.
 
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