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The New Division

corksens said:
Reilly is going to be good - but after that the Leafs prospects pool looks pretty bland.
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beyond rielly they're lacking front end talent but then few systems boast two prospects like rielly. although i wouldn't write off finn or gauthier (the latter is still really, really raw, i admit. finn i think is going to be really good).

meanwhile, they have a nice collection of depth and a good mix of size and skill behind those three with guys like biggs, colborne, leivo, percy, mckegg, d'amigo, ashton, brown plus that swedish kid.

obviously not all of them are going to crack it but a few of them i think will.
 
JohnnyHolmes said:
Ok, but his biggest sample size is when he played in the Q where he clearly put up good offensive numbers.

I get your point and I agree with it to an extent, but in the same vein, how much stock can you put in to 69 games in the AHL as a rookie, with an NHL lockout bumping you down the depth chart.

The fact is that the scouts loved him at draft time, the coach of Bingo loves him, and it appears as though the stache loves him too.

Dorion, Richardson and Maclean > Forumice faithful I think.
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Appeal to authority fallacy noted.

If the scouts loved Pageau so much he wouldn't have fallen to the fourth round. The size argument isn't even defensible here given that guys like Tyler Ennis (who is Pageau's size) were first rounders.

Even in the past two drafts we've seen players such as Nicolas Petan and Ty Rattie selected in the first two rounds. The fact of the matter is that Pageau is a tweener of sorts: he may not be skilled enough to play a top six role, and he's too limited by his lack of size to be an effective bottom sixer.
 
Whatever you say...

http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/05/20/jg-pageau-the-senators-golden-boy
The Senators were very fond of the three picks they had in the Top 24 of the 2011 NHL entry draft.

But, nothing against Mika Zibanejad, Stefan Noesen and Matt Puempel, head scout Pierre Dorion have his "favourite player."

That would be Jean-Gabriel Pageau, who they took as their 96th pick.

"I just liked the way he played the game," Dorion, the team's director of player personnel, said Monday from Saskatoon, where he's attending the Memorial Cup.

The 5-foot-9, 163-pound Pageau is certainly rewarding that leap of faith quicker than anyone expected.

When coach Paul MacLean had to make room in the lineup for Jason Spezza, he didn't even consider taking Pageau out. He said following Game 3 he would have been "nuts" to do that, as Pageau is one of the team's "better and most consistent" players of late.

In eight playoff games, the Ottawa native has six points (including an assist on Colin Greening's OT winner Sunday) and is tied with Chris Phillips for the team plus-minus lead, at plus-7.

Dorion credits GM Bryan Murray for backing his decision to draft Pageau, along with scout Greg Royce, plus the development done by Randy Lee (director of player development and hockey administration), Chris Schwarz (conditioning coach), Luke Richardson (Binghamton coach) and MacLean, for having the "courage" to put a 20-year-old in the lineup then play him in key situations.

"I'm just happy for the kid," said Dorion. "Good things happen to good people, and this is a case of that."
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http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=569514&elq=5b275268ce8244fcab5515c786e900be
But whenever Senators scouts made the trek across the river to watch the Gatineau Olympiques, they couldn't keep their eyes off the little big man. So when the time for their fourth-round pick arrived at the 2011 NHL Entry Draft, the Senators happily made Pageau the 96th overall selection. Afterward, Ottawa director of player personnel director Pierre Dorion called him "probably my favourite pick" of the draft.


"When you went and saw him play in Gatineau, he was the best player on the ice most nights," said Dorion. "We know he's not big but ... (he's) competitive enough for a small body that he'll have an impact one day in the NHL."
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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Travis-Yost/The-Best-Players-Play/134/51510
The difference between Pageau and just about everyone else, of course, is that he's outplaying competition by a considerable margin. Director of Player Personnel Pierre Dorion had initially suggested to Bryan Murray that JG Pageau was a diamond in the rough and a steal in the fourth-round of the 2011 NHL Draft.
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Volcanologist said:
are we seriously going on and on about some midget in the senators system?

dog days of summer.
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corksens said:
Reilly is going to be good - but after that the Leafs prospects pool looks pretty bland.
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Rielly is the only legit star talent in the system, but there's some legitimate potential top 6/top 4 guys. Of course, we're also really young at all the major skill positions in our lineup as well, so we don't necessarily need to produce anymore Kessel's, Phaneuf's, Kadri's, etc, etc...because we already have those guys on the roster
 
Alright Mr. "I need my girlfriend's permission to watch playoff hockey on vacation in Vegas because she has my balls in her purse" Sens.
 
corksens said:
Reilly is going to be good - but after that the Leafs prospects pool looks pretty bland.
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Agreed, but they already have a number of fairly young core pieces on the Leafs already for him to join. I'd be more concerned with the lack of impact talent in the system if the big team was older.
 
the sens fans projecting him as an impact player after one decent surprising late season / playoffs small sample performance.
 
MindzEye said:
Feel free to look into all the successful 3rd & 4th line players who have effective careers and are under 5'10 175 pounds. I don't think you grasp just how small this kid is and how big of a detriment that is in a league where the average player is 4 inches taller and 35 pounds heavier than he is.



This is where he needs to be, he simply won't stick around long as a bottom 6 guy.
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I know how "small" he is because I stood right beside him and had a conversation with him. Have you?
 
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