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The New Division

JohnnyHolmes said:
I love innernet fights!



You mean the next Marc-Andre Bergeron?

What is with your take on Cowen? He's big, he skates well, he can punch people out, he can put up points.

The guy is a beast. If he can stay healthy, he's going to be a good one.
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He's big.

He's a poor skater, especially in transition and going east to west. He has limited footwork skills.

I guess being a middleweight is useful in the way that Colton Orr is useful?

He has no ability to put up points. At all. He's virtually useless on the offensive side of the ledger.
 
SENSible said:
This board is completely irrational in their hatred for Cowen.

That's great though, it will just make the crow serving so much better latter on.
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Nothing irrational about it.

This board pumps Karlsson's tires all the time and has done so for months in the PK versus EK debate that Habs fans insist on subjecting the rest of us too.

This board also felt that the Sens made a wonderful trade in acquiring Ryan from Anaheim.

Objectivity is there when called for. But when a player is as unimpressive and limited as Cowen people aren't going to avoid the truth just to suit your sensibilities.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
He's big.

He's a poor skater, especially in transition and going east to west. He has limited footwork skills.

I guess being a middleweight is useful in the way that Colton Orr is useful?

He has no ability to put up points. At all. He's virtually useless on the offensive side of the ledger.
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So much wrong in one post...well done.
 
A player with 1 career power play point in 90 NHL matches is an offensive dynamo?

If you include playoff statistics into the equation Cowen has a total of 22 career points in 107 games.
 
He also just had his knee and hip rebuilt. Maybe he came back early?

I'm surprised that a self professed defenseman scout guru is writing off a 23 year old guy.
 
JohnnyHolmes said:
He also just had his knee and hip rebuilt. Maybe he came back early?

I'm surprised that a self professed defenseman scout guru is writing off a 23 year old guy.
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Nothing I have seen from him, from junior in Spokane, to his NHL play, suggests a player of high upside.
 
If it will make Sens fans feel better, I feel similarly about Tinordi in Montreal's system that I do about Cowen. I just dislike offensively-deficient big defenders drafted high because they are big.

The days of guys like Mike Rathje and Derian Hatcher being impact performers is over.
 
Cowen is a low upside player. He has too many offensive limitations to every be a top pairing defender.

He's going to be a solid bottom pair guy, maybe a middle pair guy. But guys like him are not unique nor are they hard to find. I hope the Sens give him a big contract though.
 
Yeah, I don't know why there are accusations of bias being thrown our way when we have proven more than willing in this very off-season to grant Ottawa a great deal of credit towards their other players.

If a guy can play, he can play. Ceci is one hell of a prospect in his own right, certainly. Much better than Cowen.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
If it will make Sens fans feel better, I feel similarly about Tinordi in Montreal's system that I do about Cowen. I just dislike offensively-deficient big defenders drafted high because they are big.

The days of guys like Mike Rathje and Derian Hatcher being impact performers is over.
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Didnt mind the pick...hated that we traded up for it.

Picking him at 26th would not have been terrible.
 
worm said:
Didnt mind the pick...hated that we traded up for it.

Picking him at 26th would not have been terrible.
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I thought you guys should have gone with Petrovic there personally. I think I even posted in your thread urging you to take him. An absolutely perfect fit for your system.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
I thought you guys should have gone with Petrovic there personally. I think I even posted in your thread urging you to take him. An absolutely perfect fit for your system.
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I think I wanted Etem. But meh. Just hope he turns into a decent defensive Dman.
 
The same McCabe that was one of three or four best offensive defenders in hockey, nominated for the Norris and named a Second Team All-Star with Chris Pronger?
 
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