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The Official 2026 Off-Season Thread: Revenge of the Nerds

zeke said:
omg its on zoom how embarassing


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Everything feels glacial because of the constant attention, but if on March 30, the day before Treliving was fired we would be told that before the draft we would have a new data driven GM, a new data driven coach, and the #1 pick we would have all nutted or splooshed, whichever was anatomically appropriate.

Everything has been coming up Millhouse lately.
 
hockeylover said:
Yikes
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LOF right now:

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MindzEye said:
Everything feels glacial because of the constant attention, but if on March 30, the day before Treliving was fired we would be told that before the draft we would have a new data driven GM, a new data driven coach, and the #1 pick we would have all nutted or splooshed, whichever was anatomically appropriate.

Everything has been coming up Millhouse lately.
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At that point, with the talk of extension for Tre during the Olympics being known, it felt like the whole band was coming back for another season++ of pain. Regardless of how negative some might feel about Burger Boy, I don't see how he (and a new coach) can be possibly be worse than that combo. We're definitely in a better timeline right now. The 1st OA is extra icing on the cake. It's going to be a very interesting summer, certainly more interesting than no-move Treliving.
 
hockeylover said:
Data likes him yeah?
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No.

But he was less bad than Myers and Benoit by a lot. So yeah, as a #7 for cheap cheap I don't hate it, though I'd still prefer leaving that role open for Villeneuve to win or at the absolute most, the best man wins in camp as long as Stetcher is fine with being org depth on the Marlies if he loses out.
 
No from me on Stecher. You can always get another Stecher on waivers if you need.

I’d rather give Villeneuve/Danford a look in the 6/7 spot before we add shitty vets.

If he was willing to take the min with the knowledge that they’ll probably waive him then fine.
 
leafman101 said:
No from me on Stecher. You can always get another Stecher on waivers if you need.

I’d rather give Villeneuve/Danford a look in the 6/7 spot before we add shitty vets.

If he was willing to take the min with the knowledge that they’ll probably waive him then fine.
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tbh that's the only reason they'd have to even talk to him now.
 
MindzEye said:
I hate all of this shit. Multiple things can be true at once.

1) Marner had a bad mental makeup for Toronto. This can be blamed on whatever you personally want to blame it on. Fanbase angst? Sure, fill your boots. A fuckwitted clickbait media core constantly searching for the next gotcha bullshit for ad revenue? Absolutely. A conflicted front office that couldn't figure out what they wanted this team to be and didn't support the kids properly? Yeah, 100%. But the kid said dumb shit after dumb shit for years and either pouted or threw a tantrum whenever accountability for poor play was required. Fixing any of the things previously mentioned doesn't change that the shit apple doesn't fall far from the shit tree and we know the level of twat his old man is.

2) #1 is not Marner's fault. This is a tough and awesome place to play, but it does require a certain ability to ignore the noise or else the shit will impact your mental health in the social media era. Whatever it was during previous eras, it's that on crack now. But the rewards of winning here are unlike the rewards of winning anywhere else. You either understand the trade off your making and live with it, or go away.

3) Moving on from Marner was the right thing to do, but we did it very, very poorly. There were multiple red flags along the way that the organization should have taken way more seriously.

4) He's a fabulous hockey player and free from the expectations of Toronto while being surrounded by veteran leaders who have won (instead of the fake ass leadership we surrounded him with over the years), free of the defensive oriented role we jammed him in every spring, he's playing spectacular hockey in the playoffs. He's played this level of playoff hockey for us in short bursts too, don't let the revisionists gaslight us on this.

5) What happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way. The previous regime wasn't going to find a way to win. We needed a complete rethink of the way we looked at the sport and that required us bottoming out. The courage to make bold moves would never have existed without us bottoming out. We fluked the fuck out into a player who will most likely be a better to much better version of Mitch immediately upon bottoming out. Whatever feelings I had about losing a player the quality of Mitch (even setting aside my dislike for how he carried himself in Toronto for years), I'm fucking over it now and we all should be. McKenna > Marner and there would have been no McKenna if Marner had kept his pouty bullshit here for the rest of his career.
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AI, or ME has moved towards assimilation, with this response..... the numbered list and the positive opening to each one is pure Gemini or ChatGPT
 
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