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this rule change is trying to appease the WeHave's of the world complaining about kickoff returns being boring. It is true, so many are touchbacks or fair catches that they may as well get rid of them at this point. But since they're part of the game, they're trying a new rule to increase the amount of kickoffs that result in a play on the field while lowering the "per capita" amount of concussions per play with this modification.
 
Yeah, 97% of kick offs were returned in the XFL with these rules. So you are increasing the number of returns by almost 500%.

Even if these rules make them 50% safer, which seems unlikely, the math doesn’t add up.

It all about trying to get more returns, not reduce concussions. It will in all likelihood increase concussions.
 
leafman101 said:
Yeah, 97% of kick offs were returned in the XFL with these rules. So you are increasing the number of returns by almost 500%.

Even if these rules make them 50% safer, which seems unlikely, the math doesn’t add up.

It all about trying to get more returns, not reduce concussions. It will in all likelihood increase concussions.
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Bingo! It's literally NEVER about player safety. It's ALWAYS about money. It's ONLY EVER about money.

The math ain't mathin'.
 
There's no chance this is going to increase the # of kickoff returns by 500 fucking percent. But yes, they are trying to increase the # of returns while at the same time trying to minimize the # of high-speed collisions. This is so obvious that's it's quite frankly amazing that you still can't figure it out.
 
a 500% increase doesn’t seem so crazy in light of the fact that so many kickoffs were touchbacks (ie a waste of tv time) last year
 
axlsalinger said:
There's no chance this is going to increase the # of kickoff returns by 500 fucking percent. But yes, they are trying to increase the # of returns while at the same time trying to minimize the # of high-speed collisions. This is so obvious that's it's quite frankly amazing that you still can't figure it out.
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What's amazing is that you still cannot bring yourself to accept the reality that the game of football is a concussion factory no matter how safe you try to make it and, moreover, that the NFL couldn't care less if the rule change makes the game safer or more dangerous.

The fact of the matter is that the current setup, where 78% of all kickoffs result in no return of any kind, is de facto "safer" than any scenario you can concoct that involves creating more kick returns. More kick returns = more potential concussions. Stop deluding yourself into thinking that football can be made safe because it can't. Every play from the line of scrimmage results in concussive injuries. Some are significant, but most are so slight that they are imperceptible to the player being concussed. But over time these little micro-concussions add up and cause catastrophic damage. When you see the brain scan of a dead football player with CTE, you aren't looking at one or even a handful of significant concussions where the player knew he had his bell rung. What you're seeing is the cumulative effect of years of playing where you're getting dinged on the noggin 50 times per game.

Football players and fans need to accept that the game is inherently dangerous and can never be made truly "safe". And we all need to reject the fiction that any NFL rule change is ever about player safety because the NFL doesn't give a shit about anything but money. Players are disposable heroes. Injured on Sunday, replaced on Monday, forgotten by Tuesday.
 
Habsy said:
Right so then why try eh?

Unreal
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They aren't trying. They're pretending. This rule change is designed to create more action on kickoffs, not to make them safer. They are going from a play in which there is no contact (and, therefore, no concussions) nearly 80% of the time and changing it so that there will be significantly more contact which will result inevitably in more concussions. If they actually gave a shit about safety they'd either keep the current rule or eliminate kickoffs altogether. This is just about the money, as usual.
 
If you want to believe that the league gives two shits about anything besides their profits, go ahead, and by the way I have a bridge in Baltimore to sell you. Bit of a fixer-upper, but going cheap.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
If you want to believe that the league gives two shits about anything besides their profits, go ahead, and by the way I have a bridge in Baltimore to sell you. Bit of a fixer-upper, but going cheap.
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Ok. I know I shouldn't but you're such a dumb fuck I can't help myself. Yes the league is about profits, all pro leagues are ya Neanderthal trying to figure out a light switch.

The point is by attempting things to reduce what we all know is a dangerous game for concussions they are actually expanding their fanbase as mothers don't like seeing their sons or other kids getting hurt. You think it's all BS attempts but it isn't. It's how you create muscle memory. Keep harping on the concussions and they'll reduce. Ignoring a difficult situation is worse.

You're a dipshit. I think your old man needed smacking around personally.
 
Habsy said:
Ok. I know I shouldn't but you're such a dumb fuck I can't help myself. Yes the league is about profits, all pro leagues are ya Neanderthal trying to figure out a light switch.

The point is by attempting things to reduce what we all know is a dangerous game for concussions they are actually expanding their fanbase as mothers don't like seeing their sons or other kids getting hurt. You think it's all BS attempts but it isn't. It's how you create muscle memory. Keep harping on the concussions and they'll reduce. Ignoring a difficult situation is worse.

You're a dipshit. I think your old man needed smacking around personally.
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BUT THEY AREN'T DOING THAT!

What they are doing is changing the way kickoffs work so that there will be more kick returns. More returns, under whatever formation you want to devise, still works out to more contact and, by extension, more opportunities for concussions to occur. Under the current rule, only about 22% of kickoffs have the potential to create the conditions for a concussion. The other 78% of them result in a dead ball with zero contact. So tell me how a rule change that causes more kickoff returns and more opportunities for contact is somehow safer than the current system where nearly 8 of every 10 kickoffs carries practically zero risk of concussion.

If you want to do something real to mitigate the potential for concussions on this particular play, then just get rid of kickoffs altogether and simply pick an arbitrary yard line from where you want the offense to scrimmage. But in terms of safety this XFL scheme is bullshit. It won't do anything significant there.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
Why is this fuck still around?
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Maybe you should stop focusing on the messenger and address the actual argument for a change.

Tell me how a rule change that will increase the instances of players colliding into one another at whatever speed, is somehow safer than a play where no contact ensues nearly 80% of the time? I'll wait and I won't even call you a fuck while I wait.

But while I wait, perhaps someone can tell me why certain posters get to engage in ad hominem attacks on other posters, supposedly counter to the site rules, without penalty while others who do less get suspended. I ask, of course, rhetorically because I already know the answer contains the word "hypocrisy".
 
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