MyNameIsJonas
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Motte
Hartman
Forsling
Hinostroza
I mean, outstanding, yes?
Hartman
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Hinostroza
I mean, outstanding, yes?
Top 4 Under 24 - Who has the best young core in the league
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worm
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I will switch my vote to "other"
UWHabs
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Galchenyuk
Gallagher
Sergachev
???
We lack that 4th option as I don't think Beaulieu, Lehkonen, Juulsen, etc... are all much more borderline options.
Preston_Mizzi
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What did you expect? It's a Leafs board.
McDavid wins obviously, but the Leafs are a clear 2nd place here.
leafman101
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More of a comparison to Kapanen-Brown-Bracco-timashov-Neislon/Carrick/Dermott...ok the Leafs are deeper.
leafman101
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McDavid is unquestionably the best player, but the question isn't who has the best player. Otherwise Washington would have a lot more cups.
number17
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That is actually another interesting discussion.
We can talk about who's the best young player in the NHL and that will be a 2 sec discussion ... but then does having the best player automatically means you have the best core?
There are plenty of examples where a dominating player never wins the cup - but probably none more apparent than Lindros, who was by far the most dominating player in his era, and Lindros made an immediate and significant impact to the Flyers immediately. However, he never won the cup, and the Flyers were not even a cup fav in those days. They were a contender, but not a cup fav. Yes, you can talk about goaltending, but it shows having the best player doens't guarantee you have the best team.
Preston_Mizzi
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When it's Mcdavid, kind of, yeah.
number17
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Is McDavid more dominating now than Lindros was in his era?
The Flyers sure didn't have the best core.
Volcanologist
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No it doesn't. The question was top 4 guys.
I think it's us too, but I love the barkov-ekblad duo that Florida has.
I think it's us too, but I love the barkov-ekblad duo that Florida has.
MindzEye
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To match your sexuality?
MindzEye
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Yeah, I was just going with what was currently in the NHL. Kind of hard to call something a core piece if it's not in the show.
worm
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don't tell trump
worm
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UWHabs
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Well, Lindros-LeClair-Brind'Amour was a pretty solid core they had, but yeah, you obviously need to build more than that to win a cup. But we're also not talking about a full team here - we're looking at the best top-4, in which case one player can make a bigger difference. I mean, if you want to go back to which team had the best core in those late 90s year, Philly would definitely be up there basically because of Lindros. Just because they didn't win a cup doesn't mean that their core sucked.
If you're talking about pure top-4 kids, I think it's very hard to argue against McDavid, especially when it's not like the rest of their group is full of chumps. Draisatl is looking like a pretty solid player in his own right, and Puljujarvi was still a very high pick this year, although obviously hasn't shown himself yet in the NHL. If he's the next Yakupov, then yeah, obviously that drops their core down, but still too early to judge on him.
The fact that you can even come close to them is a huge testament to the talent of your kids. And the fact that you've got a bunch of kids that are already playing at 60+ point paces this early in their careers is certainly huge. But I still have a hard time arguing against the guy who at 19 is 5 points ahead of second place in the NHL in points.
UWHabs
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worm
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I just went by the title.
hockeylover
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Think we have Winnipeg cleanly beat and our 4 might be better than Edmonton's but if you wanna say they take it because McDavid I'm perfectly fine with that.
Regardless, pretty clear how good the Big 3 is for us.
Regardless, pretty clear how good the Big 3 is for us.