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World Cup

I've already made my opinions of both this tournament's format, and the idea of it replacing NHL Olympic participation well known, so no point in going over them again. In that, I'm pretty much in agreement with Habitants.

I don't really get taking a shit on die-hard hockey fans for getting some enjoyment out of this tournament though.
 
hockeeyyy said:
I have no idea why people are so upset about this tournament. It's been pretty fantastic.
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Umm, kneecapping smaller hockey nations by either not including them in a tournament like this, or not allowing their best players to go play in the olympics, thus taking all the hard work a country like Switzerland put into developing a nhl quality hockey player and never getting the chance for that player to play for them?

Not a true beat on best with canada and the USA having players that could potentially play for them on team NA?

And the chance that the NHL uses the success of this glorified all star game to stop allowing NHL players to play at the Olympics?

For starters?
 
zeke said:
more euro nations are involved in this tourney than ever.
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Yeah, I'm sure some Swiss kid is dreaming of playing for ad hoc team Europe some day...

I'm sure the Swiss hockey program is loving that they cannot participate in this WC and won't get world class players like Josi playing for them at the Olympics. Again, what incentive does a country like Switzerland have for putting resources into hockey when their best players never suit up for team Switzerland?
 
Habitants87 said:
Yeah, I'm sure some Swiss kid is dreaming of playing for ad hoc team Europe some day...

I'm sure the Swiss hockey program is loving that they cannot participate in this WC and won't get world class players like Josi playing for them at the Olympics. Again, what incentive does a country like Switzerland have for putting resources into hockey when their best players never suit up for team Switzerland?
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I doubt any kids were inspired to play hockey of any kind after the sochi dud.
 
Why can't both be run? The Olympics are important to the players. If they play nice with the NHL and do a NA based tourney every 4 years between Olympics I doubt the owners will prevent them from going,
 
hockeylover said:
Hahahaha. Somber reflection, seriously? It's a hockey tournament.
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I'm happy that hockeylover is happy. Shame about the millions of hockey fans globally who don't give a damn about this tournament, and who would much prefer to watch their team full of their best players at the Olympics. Or, at the very least, have their country compete wearing their own flag on their jersey. As long as you and other Canadian hockey fans are pleased.
 
zeke said:
Do people really forget how terrible hockey in Sochi was?
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Sorry, I can't hear you. I have Olympic Gold medals in my ears

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Pre-tournament games for this were selling out all over the world. Russia, Sweden, Finland, US. Hockey fans everywhere are enjoying it. Even the ones that hate the format and love the Olympics.

You're just a miserable bastard.
 
Habitants87 said:
Umm, kneecapping smaller hockey nations by either not including them in a tournament like this, or not allowing their best players to go play in the olympics, thus taking all the hard work a country like Switzerland put into developing a nhl quality hockey player and never getting the chance for that player to play for them?

Not a true beat on best with canada and the USA having players that could potentially play for them on team NA?

And the chance that the NHL uses the success of this glorified all star game to stop allowing NHL players to play at the Olympics?

For starters?
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I'm not sure how much ammunition this tournament has really given them for that. The World Cup's been a treat for Leaf fans that want to watch Matthews and people who are already big hockey fans in general.

But so far, it doesn't look like it's reached much beyond that base. Afternoon games that don't involve the Young Guns or Team Canada have been pretty sparsely attended at the ACC. And I read somewhere that the Canada/US game on Tuesday night had an average audience of 727,000, which I don't think is even as much as your average Blue Jays TV audience.

If Canada does make it to a championship game for this tournament, it'll be interesting to see how much more the ratings will go up.
 
Deckie007 said:
Why can't both be run? The Olympics are important to the players. If they play nice with the NHL and do a NA based tourney every 4 years between Olympics I doubt the owners will prevent them from going,
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Why can't both? Money.

Nhl wants the IOC to cover the costs of travel and insurance.The nhl is also pissed about shutting down the season at the halfway point.

Fans and players don't come into the equation. It's always about the money.
 
LeafGm said:
I'm not sure how much ammunition this tournament has really given them for that. The World Cup's been a treat for Leaf fans that want to watch Matthews and people who are already big hockey fans in general.

But so far, it doesn't look like it's reached much beyond that base. Afternoon games that don't involve the Young Guns or Team Canada have been pretty sparsely attended at the ACC. And I read somewhere that the Canada/US game on Tuesday night had an average audience of 727,000, which I don't think is even as much as your average Blue Jays TV audience.

If Canada does make it to a championship game for this tournament, it'll be interesting to see how much more the ratings will go up.
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As has already been established in the thread, nobody gives a **** about hockey fans of other countries, especially the NHL.

And they are secure in the knowledge that they can degrade the quality of hockey at the Olympics by withholding nhl players from going and hold this tournament in Toronto every 4 years and make a healthy profit even if they had the teams set up in a random lottery and named them after Bettman's family members.
 
Including smaller countries into this tournament would have a detrimental effect. Yes, part of the point of this tournament is to move the NHL away from the Olympics, giving the league more control and another revenue stream. But I'd rather watch this kind of hockey than watch Canada thump on Belarus or France. Team North America might be the best idea the NHL has ever had.
 
Habitants87 said:
I'm happy that hockeylover is happy. Shame about the millions of hockey fans globally who don't give a damn about this tournament, and who would much prefer to watch their team full of their best players at the Olympics. Or, at the very least, have their country compete wearing their own flag on their jersey. As long as you and other Canadian hockey fans are pleased.
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Yeah... you can keep this whole thing going where you insinuate I'm selfish and only care about myself but you're just making yourself look like the twat in this thread.
 
hockeeyyy said:
Including smaller countries into this tournament would have a detrimental effect. Yes, part of the point of this tournament is to move the NHL away from the Olympics, giving the league more control and another revenue stream. But I'd rather watch this kind of hockey than watch Canada thump on Belarus or France. Team North America might be the best idea the NHL has ever had.
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Yup, I hope you enjoy it.

Global hockey fans, growing the game? Bah, who cares, am I right?
 
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