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World Cup

JaysCyYoung said:
No Kessel, no Tyler Johnson, no Stastny, no Okposo, no Ryan, no Faulk, no Kevin Shattenkirk, no Cam Fowler, no Keith Yandle. They literally left off half of their most skilled forwards and probably a majority of the defence that they could have selected instead of plugs like Jack Johnson and Matt Niskanen.

Add in the idiocy of not starting Corey Schneider in goal and the Americans were a disaster in every respect.
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Yeah. It's stunningly bad management.

But, that's what happens when you develop tunnel vision. The Team USA Brass had one thing on their mind. Compete with Canada physically.

I suspect the next Team USA we see on the world stage will be quite different than this one.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Yeah, it was pretty embarrassing to have the Maple Leaf Square viewing party and have twenty people awkwardly standing around there not sure if they should go catch the rest of the Jays game at a bar or not.

Great final two minutes of the final though.
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ya - I turned it on with 4 mins to go
 
number17 said:
Babs: "This (celebration when players celebrated the WCH win on ice) is a sign of things to come in Toronto."

I think that's the best moment of the WCH tourney :)
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I get that regular season wins have been few and far between for the Leafs over the last decade, but no need to hold a major celebration after each one...
 
JohnnyHolmes said:
Team USA had more problems that not being allowed to bring Johnny Hockey and Jack Eichel. They assembled a bad team.
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Given the way team USA management was all about the grit game, and left guys like Tyler Johnston and Phil Kessel off the team, would they have even taken Johnny Hockey?
 
Kessel didn't crack 60 points last year (although had a hell of a playoffs). Johnson had a down year as well (but again, was good in the playoffs). Johnny Hockey was top 10 in league scoring. Little tougher to leave him at home.
 
Habitants87 said:
I'm not watching a minute of this shit, you can take that to the bank.

I would bet you posting here for a year that the world cup doesn't come close to the Olympics in terms of interest or viewership.

The nhl is doing fine, sure. No one is arguing that. What we are arguing is that this world Cup of hockey won't even come close to being as good as the olympics.

Again, I would bet posting here for a year on it. Would you?

Also https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pwDOQ3pQXI0
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Habitants87 said:
I'm willing to put money or posting privileges where my mouth is. You seem confident that this competition will be superior to olympic hockey. Surely if this is true more people will watch it at prime time based in Toronto than wake up at stupid o'clock for a game in sochi.
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zeke said:
so you're 12.

if Canada makes the final I'm sure the ratings will be in the same ballpark.
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Habitants87 said:
I stand by what I said. A world cup of hockey final involving canada in Toronto in prime time will not come close to the 15 million Canadians watching the gold medal game in sochi involving canada at zero dark stupid in the morning. Never mine the 17 million that Vancouver got.

So that's my mark, 15 million.
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http://www.sportscastermagazine.ca/business/world-cup-hockey-tv-ratings-score-canada/1003413173/

The cliff-hanger Game 2 Final delivered an average audience of 2.27 million viewers (2+), with more than 7.5 million Canadians tuning in to some part of the hockey telecast, happily so it turned out, with Team Canada coming from behind with two late goals to edge Team Europe, 2-1.
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Pages 11 and 12 of this thread, not that I expect zeke to honor his end of things.
 
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Yeah, Zeke was wrong...but he's already shifted gears to blaming the stupid fans for not being as forward thinking as he is.

He did not though agree to any sort of a bet from what I can see.
 
MindzEye said:
Yeah, Zeke was wrong...but he's already shifted gears to blaming the stupid fans for not being as forward thinking as he is.

He did not though agree to any sort of a bet from what I can see.
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Well, I said the bet was on and he never disputed it but I guess he never said definitively that he was in.

Smart on his part.
 
MindzEye said:
Yeah, Zeke was wrong...but he's already shifted gears to blaming the stupid fans for not being as forward thinking as he is.

He did not though agree to any sort of a bet from what I can see.
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I don't understand.

If this was superior competition that was leaps and bounds ahead of the olympics then why wouldn't more Canadians tune in to watch it than the olympics which are supposedly inferior?

To add to that why would Canadians tune into the olympics which featured inferior hockey at sunrise as opposed to watching the superior world cup during prime time?

Unless....
 
I think what Zeke misses or at least underestimates is the nature of the olympics themselves. The point of the event in it's entirety is to whip basically the entire world into a spirit of mostly friendly competition with our rival nations. When you have a sport as central to our identity as a nation as hockey is to Canada, winning on the absolute biggest stage is massively important to national pride. It's not about the hockey...people get excited about ****ing luge medals during the olympics, now transfer that general baseline level of national sporting enthusiasm over to a sport that we actually care deeply about and it becomes a true national event that would be really hard to duplicate in any other setting. I could see a future World Cup of legitimate depth of talent (like a legit little brother to the football world cup) creating that type of excitement, but what the NHL/NHLPA just put on? Nope, not close and was never going to be close.
 
If Canada remains this dominant, Olympics won't be any fun to watch either.

Just like basketball.
 
Yes, more should be done to help grow the game of hockey in other nations so there are more competitive countries other than canada.

I wonder how that can be achieved...
 
zeke said:
NHL olympic participation has seemed to only make countries less competitive, not more.
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This is so blatantly untrue I have no clue how you actually thought it would be acceptable to try and pass this off as fact to this esteemed group of posters.
 
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