OT: American Politics
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MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Just on the front page, showing what's on tonight...
- A Frontline edition on the election
- A preview for tonight's episode of "History Detective" where the episode seems to revolve around some WW1 artifacts
- Nova: Secrets of the Viking Sword
- Cat in the Hat Math Safari
- Nature: Siberian Tiger Quest
- ScienceNOW's season premier "what makes us human"
I don't know about you or your intellectual pursuits, but most of that sounds ****ing fascinating as far as television goes. Not a reality show or storage locker auction in site...and I'm not quite sure wtf you're on about with your question. I think everything that was apparently on tonight counts as "big bird". Educational programming isn't limited to puppets counting, spelling and singing. You don't think every young aspiring scientist in the country watches NOVA & ScienceNOW religiously?
theREALkoreaboy
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
that was just a start. sit me down with a budget summary and i'd tell you many ways that i would cut.
that was just a start. sit me down with a budget summary and i'd tell you many ways that i would cut.
theREALkoreaboy
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
lots of ways. but thats a discussion for local bargaining teams.
lots of ways. but thats a discussion for local bargaining teams.
corksens
Legend
SundinsTooth
Leafs Moderator
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Well considering the results (one of the top systems in the world) and the per capita spending, I guess they are doing a phenomenal job. They manage to provide high level education and keep the costs right around the average for expenditures in the OECD Countries.
I say let's look elsewhere for savings...you can't dismantle one of the foundations of what makes a country great.
People that are looking to slash slash slash are going to bitch and moan when the results slide and we stop producing quality students.
Now with that said, I don't necessarily disagree that there is waste, and we should always do our best to eliminate it...so if there are cost cuts that can be made without damaging the system, lets air them out.
Well considering the results (one of the top systems in the world) and the per capita spending, I guess they are doing a phenomenal job. They manage to provide high level education and keep the costs right around the average for expenditures in the OECD Countries.
I say let's look elsewhere for savings...you can't dismantle one of the foundations of what makes a country great.
People that are looking to slash slash slash are going to bitch and moan when the results slide and we stop producing quality students.
Now with that said, I don't necessarily disagree that there is waste, and we should always do our best to eliminate it...so if there are cost cuts that can be made without damaging the system, lets air them out.
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PlayerToBeNamedLater
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DavidGrann Quote of the day: "There's no legislation with regards to abortion that .. would become part of my agenda" - Romney
DavidGrann 2nd quote of the day: "Romney would of course support legislation aimed at providing greater protections for life" - Romney spokesperson
DavidGrann 2nd quote of the day: "Romney would of course support legislation aimed at providing greater protections for life" - Romney spokesperson
johnunit
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Generally speaking the "waste cutting" in Ontario reached it's law of diminishing returned at least 10 years ago. I'm not sure where I fall on the teacher's salary issue (hence my silence so far) but in general the idea that 'cutting the waste' is the key makes the absurd assumption that someone claiming to want to do that is inherrently more capable than the last 10 (ok, in the case of Ontario 3) guys who made that a big priority. I mean, we already tried selling of freaking highways. There's not much general fat in Ontario's budget that hasn't already been cut in this round of cuts by the liberals. I can't say too much because I'm a little close to the issue but some of the cuts in the environment, natural resource management, parks, etc. are ****ing heinous.
Generally speaking the "waste cutting" in Ontario reached it's law of diminishing returned at least 10 years ago. I'm not sure where I fall on the teacher's salary issue (hence my silence so far) but in general the idea that 'cutting the waste' is the key makes the absurd assumption that someone claiming to want to do that is inherrently more capable than the last 10 (ok, in the case of Ontario 3) guys who made that a big priority. I mean, we already tried selling of freaking highways. There's not much general fat in Ontario's budget that hasn't already been cut in this round of cuts by the liberals. I can't say too much because I'm a little close to the issue but some of the cuts in the environment, natural resource management, parks, etc. are ****ing heinous.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
Source:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business...-looks-the-exact-same-and-that-stinks/263419/
ALL OBAMA'S FAULT
and how does this article conclude?
PlayerToBeNamedLater
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IT'S ALL MADE UP!!!! ALL OF IT!!! LIES LIES LIES!!!! THE USA IS GOING DOWN...RUN FOR YOUR LIVES.
HabsAddict
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Which of those programs can't be done by private broadcasters? PBS os not like the CBC that provides prgraming to extremely remote areas. PBS is on the 400 channel universe and can survive along and like the other 380 secondary channels.
SundinsTooth
Leafs Moderator
Wow is this ever a bad idea. Check out what has happened to History or Discovery . In and effort to find viewers the programming gets worse. Horrible place to make a spending cut.
HabsAddict
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Source:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business...-looks-the-exact-same-and-that-stinks/263419/
ALL OBAMA'S FAULT
and how does this article conclude?
Which part of this negates my argument that the obama regime bought a mediocre economy with 5 trillion debt. And more of the same in the future.
Although you proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that it wasnt all Bush's fault for the housing bubble. Something that i have said a thousand times.
HabsAddict
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So how much money have you contributed?
The problem with cutting back is that everybody wants to protect THEIR sacred cow. In the end, nothing gets cut.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Private broadcasters don't create programming like this because it doesn't "sell". Would you rather create the next Jersey Shore, or the next NOVA? If you were a television executive, and you didn't state the former, you'd be out of a job in a hurry. Television broadcasters are in the business of making money, and if that means selling garbage to idiots, so be it. PBS has a different mandate (thank ****ing god) and they do it for a pittance comparatively.
This attack on PBS by the right is ridiculous, but not unexpected. Though having an atheist with an engineering degree bob along with the beat that the religious mouth breathers are playing is a bit odd.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
PBS is an investment in the future. You want cuts? Find things that don't bring positive returns down the road.
SundinsTooth
Leafs Moderator
Sacred cow? PBS goes out of its way to showcase science, something that benefits every single citizen. I don't see much of this in todays day and age, and isn't that always a good thing? You are always shouting down people for being scientifically illiterate but don't think supporting education in it is a good thing?
You flip flop all over the place, it's hard to follow.
theREALkoreaboy
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yeah, so? whats the matter with this? he's saying as president, abortion wouldnt be something that drives his agenda, or that he'd take steps to restrict. however, of course he would be supportive of legislative efforts that move away from abortion on demand. that is entirely consistent.
abortion just isnt a major issue for economic conservatives. its one for narcissistic, lefty gender warriors, so of course they would be hot and bothered by this. president romney will be about fixing the economy, not playing at gender warfare. but of course he would sign a reasonable bill restricting abortion, and of course he would appoint supremes that reflect his views.
big bird and this crap shows just how desperate and unhinged the hopeychangers are becoming. its really apparent now.
PlayerToBeNamedLater
Well-known member
heh
Along with Obama's economic plan, he's also now adopting his social plan. Whatever works I guess.
Along with Obama's economic plan, he's also now adopting his social plan. Whatever works I guess.
theREALkoreaboy
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
we havent been given a chance. mcweasel has stripped us all of our ability to bargain meaningfully at the local level. this isnt about $$$$ by the way. if it was, mcweasel would have given us a figure that he needs to get back out of education to supposedly "save ontario". he hasnt done that. because this is really about breaking our profession and taking complete control.
we havent been given a chance. mcweasel has stripped us all of our ability to bargain meaningfully at the local level. this isnt about $$$$ by the way. if it was, mcweasel would have given us a figure that he needs to get back out of education to supposedly "save ontario". he hasnt done that. because this is really about breaking our profession and taking complete control.