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In Fox fashion they did not play the whole rose garden address where Obama made his "No act of terror" statements. The rest of the timeline is curious though.

here's the transcript of the Rose garden address:

REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT ON THE DEATHS OF U.S. EMBASSY STAFF IN LIBYA

Rose Garden

10:43 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.

Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.

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Anyone else see her nose growing? Zeke needs to marry Stephanie Cutter and have little Obamanites. That woman is so full of shit it's disgusting.

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The administration lied and misled people. It is so ****ing insulting for them to try and claim they didn't.
 
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Here is what I think happened. One genius in intelligence floated this idea in a memo. Another genius up the line thought hey, that is plausible. The WH decided to go with it because it sounds softer than a terrorist attack. Then when they realized it was backfiring badly they had to start damage control.

Remember, a bigger scandal than Watergate.

the theme of it is right there in the rose garden address.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.
 
I don't buy it. When you want to investigate you don't put forth a bullshit story like spontaneous demonstration. You simply say you are withholding comment until the investigation is complete.

he was talking about the demonstrations that occurred across the region... and started forming in libya too. it was obviously a coordinated terrorist attack, but he was not talking about one issue at that point in time. he was talking about demonstrations across the region.
 
That CNN clip is probably the best on the issue. The Mother of one of the dead flat out says the administration is lying to her.
 
he was talking about the demonstrations that occurred elsewhere in the region... and started forming in libya too. it was obviously a coordinated terrorist attack, but he was not talking about one issue at that point in time. he was talking about demonstrations across the region.

Still doesn't mean you run with that for two weeks while you investigate msun30. Take politics out of it for a second and use your head... they weren't being truthful. If this happened under Bush ALL the media outlets would be up his ass so far about this "coverup" and you know it.
 
Actually you can't. Because you haven't the ability to slip into alternate realities, you cannot unequivocally say they would have lost their aaa rating with McCain. You can make an educated guess but that is entirely different.

Since every other member of the G8 slipped in their ratings after the global meltdown, YES I CAN.
 
LOL, Erin Burnett catches Cutter. Listen around the 1:10 mark.

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sounds like you're the one inserting politics into this.

you scream cover up... but then all he's doing is delaying calling something a terrorist act to preserve his record on eradicating terrorism for the two weeks until such action is in fact exposed as an 'act of terror'.

that doesn't make sense.

i don't like that he played dumb, either. but this really isn't such a big issue. he was facing what looked like anti-american demonstrations across the arab world. they reserved labelling this as a terrorist action until they could investigate, and tensions died down a little bit.

of course, it was in libya... where there are a confluence of groups loosely affiliated to al qaeda that are maybe or maybe not linking up... where there is still unrest following 40 years of dictatorship and a civil war... where there are freakin armed militias that just overthrew 40 years of continuous rule and don't really have a purpose any more... there were lots of reasons to investigate this thoroughly and to not jump to conclusions.
 
Since every other member of the G8 slipped in their ratings after the global meltdown, YES I CAN.

No, you can't. You cannot unequivocally say what would have happened. To say you can is ludicrous. As I said, You can make an intelligent guess, you can think that is what would have happened but it is impossible to know 100% for sure. Impossible. Unless you were on that show Sliders in the 90's.
 
sounds like you're the one inserting politics into this.

you scream cover up... but then all he's doing is delaying calling something a terrorist act to preserve his record on eradicating terrorism for the two weeks until such action is in fact exposed as an 'act of terror'.

that doesn't make sense.

i don't like that he played dumb, either. but this really isn't such a big issue. he was facing what looked like anti-american demonstrations across the arab world. they reserved labelling this as a terrorist action until they could investigate, and tensions died down a little bit.

of course, it was in libya... where there are a confluence of groups loosely affiliated to al qaeda that are maybe or maybe not linking up... where there is still unrest following 40 years of dictatorship and a civil war... where there are freakin armed militias that just overthrew 40 years of continuous rule and don't really have a purpose any more... there were lots of reasons to investigate this thoroughly and to not jump to conclusions.

He's not delaying Msun, you are the one being biased on this. There is absolutely no legitimate reason to have your surrogates, VP and yourself go out for two weeks and propagate the same errant story. None. Either you are directly misleading people or your administration is really that incompetent.
 
Forgot to add... if the administration HAD NOT spewed the BS story for two weeks and remained silent I could see them delaying to get all the facts. People simply do not tell stories to investigate like that. If they do they have no business being President.
 
Romney seems to be surging in the polls, and it looks like while he may have "lost" the debate overall on Tuesday, the polling so far indicates that he won (by a landslide) the parts of the debate dealing with the only issue that most people who will vote on Nov. 6 care about, the economy. Even MSNBC this morning is saying that a 269-269 electoral college result on Nov. 6 is a distinct possibility, which should tell you something.
 
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Romney seems to be surging in the polls, and it looks like while he may have "lost" the debate overall on Tuesday, the polling so far indicates that he won (by a landslide) the parts of the debate dealing with the only issue that most people who will vote on Nov. 6 care about, the economy. Even MSNBC this morning is saying that a 269-269 electoral college result on Nov. 6 is a distinct possibility, which should tell you something.

The shitstorm that would ensue if it somehow ended in a tie would rip the country apart. I pray it never happens.
 
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