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The New Division

LeafGm said:
Yeah, you have plenty of depth NHLers and AHL fodder, like Greening, Conacher, Zibanejad, Smith, Condra, Neil, etc. that can adequately muck about at the NHL level in MacLean's system. But they won't be able to step up for you much when Spezza and/or Michalek eventually suffer injuries that cause them to miss a decent chunk of the season. Pageau could potentially help in that department, but I suspect that time will bear him out to be the next Lonny Bohonos.
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All those guys could score 20 given the right opportunity.

You can't assume injuries to Spezza and Michalek. Both are healthy now. 2011-12 Spezza played 80 games and Michalek 77.

Who's to say they won't do that this year?
 
JohnnyHolmes said:
All those guys could score 20 given the right opportunity.

You can't assume injuries to Spezza and Michalek. Both are healthy now. 2011-12 Spezza played 80 games and Michalek 77.

Who's to say they won't do that this year?
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Spezza and Michalek are in the same boat as Lupul. Sure, they have had healthy seasons in the past and this season could end up being one of them. But the odds, and recent history, aren't exactly in their favour.

As for the others...Zibanejad is the only one that I'll grant still has potential, though his first taste of AHL and then NHL action wasn't much to write home about. Greening's a 27 year old that seems to score at about a ~35 point pace, and Concacher's a midget who's offensive production almost completely dried up once he was no longer lining up with Steven Stamkos and Martin St-Louis.
 
The sens have a pretty good team this year. Legit top end talent, balanced other lines and great goaltending. They will not be easy to beat. They could have home ice.
 
MindzEye said:
Poor Habsy.
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Your semantic argument on the word random in no way diverts the truth that you pulled a number out of your ass after looking at a few stats and then proceeded to attempt a wager on a number of your choosing, not one agreed upon.

Pauvre p'tit Mindz...
 
Habsy said:
Your semantic argument on the word random in no way diverts the truth that you pulled a number out of your ass after looking at a few stats and then proceeded to attempt a wager on a number of your choosing, not one agreed upon.

Pauvre p'tit Mindz...
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Weak. You don't understand what the word random means. That's all this is.

and I didn't attempt to make wagers, I put out what I suggested PK & Karlsson's offensive totals for the season and was challenged by a few Habs & Sens fans. They're the one who brought up wagers. I simply named terms that would be acceptable to me. Nobody wanted to bite unless the terms severely favoured them. Not quite sure what you're on about.
 
MindzEye said:
Weak. You don't understand what the word random means. That's all this is.

and I didn't attempt to make wagers, I put out what I suggested PK & Karlsson's offensive totals for the season and was challenged by a few Habs & Sens fans. They're the one who brought up wagers. I simply named terms that would be acceptable to me. Nobody wanted to bite unless the terms severely favoured them. Not quite sure what you're on about.
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Oh no sir, you did attempt to make a wager and your weak attempt at diversion failed.

I am on about nothing really. Call it a random perturbance.
 
corksens said:
Mindz, I don't like the wishy washy middle.

65pts. 65 and under for you. 66 and over for me. No one likes a tie.
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Nah, again...if he scores 67 points, I was ****ing right, but I lose the bet. I'm cool with just standing by my prediction.
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
You guys don't think you're a big tough team, do you? Because that would be stupid.
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You're aware that we fought a lot and hit a lot last year, right? Then added Clarkson.

Kessel is our only soft top 9 forward. Even Bozak hits a lot ffs. We then had two of the top 10 hitters in the NHL in our top 4 last year.

So yes, we're a big, tough team.
 
MindzEye said:
Nah, again...if he scores 67 points, I was ****ing right, but I lose the bet. I'm cool with just standing by my prediction.
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So let me get this straight, you randomly chose 65 points for Karlsson, but then when asked to take a bet on the 65 points, you say no, because if he scores 67 points, you would be correct?
 
Blueman said:
So let me get this straight, you randomly chose 65 points for Karlsson, but then when asked to take a bet on the 65 points, you say no, because if he scores 67 points, you would be correct?
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More people who don't understand the meaning of the word random....awesome.

Use of a methodology immediately dismisses the possibility of something being random, why is this so difficult for people to understand? I took his 2 yr splits (ignoring last year's injury devestated season for a moment.) That was 62 points. I looked at what he did prior to the injury (14 points in 17 games...68 point pace) and I assumed some lingering effect of a very serious achilles injury. 65 was a nice round number right in the neighbourhood that made sense given those factors.

and yes, considering the fact that we have Sens fans proclaiming he's a sure fire 1st ballot HOF'er already, having Karlsson score 67 points this season when I predicted 65 would make be pretty ****ing correct in my pre season assessment. I didn't predict 65 and under. I predicted 65. 67, as you might be aware, is extremely close to 65 when counting in a linear fashion.

I'm being offered 65 and under when I'm predicting ~65 points and his previous complete season was a 78 point season. Now I'm being criticised for not accepting an over under bet right at my prediction point? That's ****ing ridiculous.
 
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