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2019 Free Agency Thread

andyt said:
The rumor was that he was looking for Tom Wilson money, 6 years/$31 million. I bet the Canes would have done the contract he ultimately signed.
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Heck, at the time, we might have paid even more. After the way his season progressed (or regressed), I'm glad now that it didn't work out. When he's healthy, he can be a force to be reckoned with, but by the end of his stay at Carolina, he was a shell of his former self. I wish him luck in Vancouver.
 
Yeah I think most of us on the board was ok with a salary in the $4-4.5 million region at the time.

I can't say I'm gonna miss him either. He started well, but in the end he, who was supposed to be the tough guy, was softest of them all.
 
SlapShots said:
Ferland is heading out west-- Vancouver for 4 years at an AAV of $3.5 million for a total of $14 million. Glad he got what he wanted, but buyer beware...It's being finalized now.

In other news, Matt Cullen is has called it a career! Thanks Matt and good luck! We loved you in Carolina!
https://www.tsn.ca/pittsburgh-penguins-f-matt-cullen-retires-after-21-seasons-1.1335554
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I'm kinda glad Ferland is back in the West! Good for the guy that he gets a four year deal, but the AAV is much lower then what he had hoped for.

Cullen had one helluva NHL career, great guy and an even better Hurricane!
 
Ferland got a full NMC in the first 2 years and a modified NTC in the last 2, according to Puckpedia on Twitter. Here is the breakdown:

Year 1: $2.5M Salary $2M Signing Bonus - No Movement Clause (NMC)
Year 2: $3M Salary- NMC
Year 3: $3.75M Salary - Modified No-Trade
Year 4: $2.75M Salary - Modified No-Trade


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Wow. Good for Ferland, but I'm happy that it wasn't the Hurricanes that gave him that contract. It's a win-win situation!
 
That was NOT the kind of contract that it was being reported that he wanted. I guess playing better would have helped.
 
So on the trade, we got Ferland and Dougie. They got Lindholm and Hanifan. We only have Dougie left, and we got a half good year from Ferland.

If you don't count addition by subtraction - which may or may not apply here, it seems like they got the best of that trade. Although did they sign those guys to value contracts? I guess that has to figure in.
 
cmon3 said:
So on the trade, we got Ferland and Dougie. They got Lindholm and Hanifan. We only have Dougie left, and we got a half good year from Ferland.

If you don't count addition by subtraction - which may or may not apply here, it seems like they got the best of that trade. Although did they sign those guys to value contracts? I guess that has to figure in.
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We also got the rights to Adam Fox, which were parlayed into 2 picks from the Rangers.

Lindholm and Hanifin both got 6 year contracts for $30ish million from Calgary. Lindholm’s would have slotted him 4th among forwards, about $500k less than what Turbo signed for. That’s high for the 45 point player he was with the Canes, but pretty good for the 78 point season he had in Calgary. Hanifin would have been the 2nd highest paid dman, behind Slavin (we wouldn’t have Hamilton, who is the highest paid). His season wasn’t much different in points than what he had with the Canes over his 2nd and 3rd year aside from +18 compared to -20 and -19 with the Canes.


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TheBigKahuna said:
That was NOT the kind of contract that it was being reported that he wanted. I guess playing better would have helped.
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Nope. 6 months ago this board seemed to think we was a $5-6M+ per year guy. That was crazy. Considering what he can bring when healthy, that isn't a bad contract for Vancouver....really looks like a bargain considering they gave Tyler Meyers 5 years at $6M per!
 
Early on, I had no problem with him being a 3yr 12-15m dollar signing. By April, he could go suck eggs. He quit on this team. He can walk.
 
I don' think anyone on this board thought Ferland was ever worth $5-6 million per. That was what his rumored ask was which was completely ridiculous.
 
cmon3 said:
So on the trade, we got Ferland and Dougie. They got Lindholm and Hanifan. We only have Dougie left, and we got a half good year from Ferland.

If you don't count addition by subtraction - which may or may not apply here, it seems like they got the best of that trade. Although did they sign those guys to value contracts? I guess that has to figure in.
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Dougie vs. Noah... 18 goals vs 5. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no Dougie, no playoffs. Folks calling Hamilton a defensive liability forget how out of place Hanafin looked as the Canes lone All-Star in 2018.

Ferland vs. Lindholm... Ferland was easily our best player through December 31st. Would Lindholm have had the breakout season that he had feeding pucks to Svechnikov as opposed to Gaudreau? Tough to say. Probably not. Long term looks like Calgary won this part of the trade.

Adam Fox was a gamble that turned into two pretty solid looking draft choices this year.
 
If you want to keep a tally including the draft picks for Fox, right now....

Calgary has Noah Hanifin (who one could argue they are overpaying at almost $5 million per) and Elias Lindholm (who sure looks great playing with 2 other superstars but would be making $4-5 million and likely not be anywhere near as productive for us. that cap room might have factored into us being able to buy Toronto's 2020 1st round pick). And a reminder that Lindholm was -5 in 5 playoff games, basically disappearing along with his superstar linemates in the first round of the playoffs.

Canes have an Eastern Conference Final, Dougie Hamilton (who as Punzil stated might have been the difference between us making the playoffs or not last season), Jamieson Rees (2nd round, 44th overall), Anttoni Honka (3rd round, 83rd overall) and either the Rangers 2nd or 3rd round pick in 2020, depending on how much that Lying sack of S!%# plays for the Rangers next season.


Its going to take a LOOOOONNNNGGGG time before anyone can say for sure who got the better of this deal considering how far out Rees, Honka and whatever happens with the 2020 Rangers pick will be before we know if there is any value there. We just made the playoffs for the 1st time in 10 seasons and won 2 rounds. Its kind of hard to say we lost this trade at this point. Its quite possible purging Lindholm and Hanifin and not paying them $10 million will turn out to be more valuable than anything else from this deal.
 
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bagopux said:
Wasn't Ferland asking for a ton more than that, at least at some point?

The NHL without Matt Cullen? Is there such a thing?
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Best stat:

Perhaps the most amazing stat about Cullen’s longevity is the number of players he has played with and against. As of March 4, a total of 7,051 skaters, including Cullen, had played in at least one NHL game since the league formed in 1917. Since Cullen’s debut, a total of 3,461 skaters have played at least one game, not including Cullen. Based off these numbers, it means that Cullen has overlapped 49.1% of all skaters to ever play an NHL game! Further, since Cullen’s debut, 2,683 other players have made their NHL debut.
 
cmaleski2 said:
If you want to keep a tally including the draft picks for Fox, right now....

Calgary has Noah Hanifin (who one could argue they are overpaying at almost $5 million per) and Elias Lindholm (who sure looks great playing with 2 other superstars but would be making $4-5 million and likely not be anywhere near as productive for us. that cap room might have factored into us being able to buy Toronto's 2020 1st round pick). And a reminder that Lindholm was -5 in 5 playoff games, basically disappearing along with his superstar linemates in the first round of the playoffs.

Canes have an Eastern Conference Final, Dougie Hamilton (who as Punzil stated might have been the difference between us making the playoffs or not last season), Jamieson Rees (2nd round, 44th overall), Anttoni Honka (3rd round, 83rd overall) and either the Rangers 2nd or 3rd round pick in 2020, depending on how much that Lying sack of S!%# plays for the Rangers next season.


Its going to take a LOOOOONNNNGGGG time before anyone can say for sure who got the better of this deal considering how far out Rees, Honka and whatever happens with the 2020 Rangers pick will be before we know if there is any value there. We just made the playoffs for the 1st time in 10 seasons and won 2 rounds. Its kind of hard to say we lost this trade at this point. Its quite possible purging Lindholm and Hanifin and not paying them $10 million will turn out to be more valuable than anything else from this deal.
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I think that's a great breakdown on the trade CMal and maybe most importantly trading Lindholm and Hanafin away likely had a lot to do with why the culture changed under Brindy and why they had a great playoff run. I think it's hard to argue that Lindholm, Hanafin and of course Skinner were the three core players that were part of the old guard group here that had not done much to take this team to the post season and were identified as expendable to turn the culture around. That's not a slam on any of them as players just more the fact that things were not working for them in Carolina and both team and players need the change of scenery.
 
More trivia: Cullen played with some guys who were not even born when he started his career in 1997. One example is Luke Kunin with the Wild last season . He was born 2 months after Cullen started in the NHL
 
Jordan Binnington parlayed 32 regular season and 26 playoff games into a 2 year/$8.8 million contract. He made $650k last year.
 
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