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The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

LeafGm said:
It’s not that I don’t place any value in analytics.

But when your good “nerdies” as a GM are paired with consistent abject failure in the playoffs over a long period of time, they don’t buy you any credit from me.

I also think it’s insane to paint this guy as an analytics GM considering all the horrific Burke/Nonis-esque UFA contracts he’s handed out to shitty marginal vets.

As for who I would’ve wanted, either Tulsky or Nill would’ve been my preference.
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In acquiring Russell, Nill paid a high price. The Stars gave up young defenseman Jyrki Jokipakka, high-scoring junior prospect Brett Pollock and a conditional second-round draft pick that could turn into a first if the Stars make the Western Conference finals and Russell dresses for half their playoff games.
 
Tulsky is interesting but it's hard to know exactly what he does in Carolina. Rumor has it that he's responsible for assigning a max cap hit on a player based on their age/position/underlying performance....that's cool but the Leafs may feel they already have that in-house with Pridham.
 
CH1 said:
Tulsky is interesting but it's hard to know exactly what he does in Carolina. Rumor has it that he's responsible for assigning a max cap hit on a player based on their age/position/underlying performance....that's cool but the Leafs may feel they already have that in-house with Pridham.
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And maybe a meek, awkward nerd leading a team in the biggest market won't end well. Let your nerds nerd and your GM be a bit rougher around the edges.
 
most of the job doesn't get headlines: getting the best from the people that work under you and juggling between different viewpoints when they arise
 
From Hockeyprospecting.com

2014-2022 Draft (NHL rank)
Flames: 54 players drafts, 12.2% NHL player success rate (6th), 4.1% star success rate (12th), 2 top 10 picks, 6 1st round picks
Leafs: 47 players drafted, 8.1% (19th), 4.8% (7th), 3 top 10 picks, 6 1st round picks

NHLers outside the first round:
Flames: Andersson, Kylington, Mangiapane, Dube, Fox, Ruzicka, Wolf*
Leafs: Engvall, Joshua, Dermott, Grundstrom, Woll, Durzi, Holmberg, Knies*
 
Preston said:
Tbh I thought a forum that valued nerdies as much as we do would be a little less miserable about this move.
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The issue is not how this guy thinks or operates. It is his track record.

I thought Kyle needed to go because 1) his lack of playoffs success 2) putting us in a position to possibly lose a generational player for nothing or give him up in a trade with one year left on his contract. 3) running out of ideas

Brad is guilty of all of those things in Calgary.
 
Volcanologist said:
It makes sense though, now they'll have another blood sacrifice next spring when "it just doesn't go in" for them again in round 1

every Leaf GM has inherited the coach for a while now
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Yep. Shanahan leaving a built in excuse for himself and his new GM for one more year.

After all, if they don’t have Keefe to sacrifice after next spring’s failure, people might start wondering if Shanahan should be the guy to go. Can’t have that.

Also looking forward to Keefe convincing the new idiot GM to trade Lilly for a bag of pucks at the deadline.
 
In all seriousness though, this is the perfect hire if you want to keep Keefe. If Treliving could coexist with someone like Darryl Sutter for so long. Then he could coexist with Darryl Sutter Light in Keefe.
 
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