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Pascal , Beal , Brown are players you move before their third gotta be fucken kidding me contracts kick in
MindzEye
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It all depends on where you are in your roster development. Pascal might be a perfect compliment to a true Batman on their first or second contract and you might be cooking. Pascal with Wemby, Antman, Shai would be similar to what we saw with him next to Prime-ish Kawhi. Versatile scorer who can carry the offence for stretches but when it doesn't hurt you when he disappears or struggles in the clutch because the ball is going through Batman's hands every possession anyway and his role turns into spacer/cutter/transition layups which he's excellent at 2 of the 3 of.
He's definitely the guy you don't entertain getting unless you have Batman though, and I think that's what Indy is thinking. Haliburton isn't Batman as a scorer yet, but that's the organizational direction they're pushing in.
Great post but with the new CBA apron rules that contract will bite you at some point trying to complete your roster
MindzEye
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NBA deals really aren't long enough to worry about it too much. Minnesota did the same thing I'm talking about here with Gobert, but before the new apron rules were announced and it will only limit them for 1 year, maybe 2 if Rudy accepts his player option instead of opting to re sign a multi year extension (at a lower cap number, no one is going max on a 33 yr old Gobert)
In the end, the "bite" will be having to move on from high end role players already making decent sized salaries (in Minnesota's case, Jalen McDaniels) if they want that flexibility. Those rules though, mostly affect a team's ability to add even more salary by trade in an attempt to avoid super team formation the way the Clippers, Nets, Suns, etc tried to build out. Boston (Jrue) and Milwaukee (Dame) also took advantage of the same mechanic last year....but if they're under the 2nd apron, they can still do it going forward. It doesn't actually hamper a team's ability to do what Minnesota did, and add big complimentary salaries before they were paying their Batman his max deal.
zeke
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The thing is with Scottie/IQ/RJ neither Siakam nor OG would need to be anything like a real #1 option, and maybe not even a #2.
That being said, looking at our roster now, and looking at Siakam once again Demar it in the playoffs, even as a clear #2 option, and given Siakam's main asset is scoring, he's not looking like a guy to invest in.
But looking at our roster now, OG does still seem to be an excellent fit. We could use a 1A matchup defender for sure, and only need a complementary offensive player which OG is very good at. Of course, OG always chafed at not getting more offensive responsibility here.
That being said, looking at our roster now, and looking at Siakam once again Demar it in the playoffs, even as a clear #2 option, and given Siakam's main asset is scoring, he's not looking like a guy to invest in.
But looking at our roster now, OG does still seem to be an excellent fit. We could use a 1A matchup defender for sure, and only need a complementary offensive player which OG is very good at. Of course, OG always chafed at not getting more offensive responsibility here.
MindzEye
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We need a #1 matchup defender, but we don't need a 40 million dollar #1 matchup defender. Would much rather spend the draft capital to go get Herb Jones or similar (Caruso,...fuck, even Draymond) get a veteran stopgap like Royce O'neal for 1/3rd the price on a 1+1 or split the role up between more offensively limited specialists like Tillman, Dennis Smith Jr., Melton.
OG is fine on his 18 mil a year deal ......not the 35-40
Wayward DP
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yah but then we find ourselves needed an RJ and an IQ
NBA cap is ridiculous
It is what is but 2 max players potentially eating 60% of the cap is lunacy
MindzEye
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Ehhh, not sure if that's true any more with the new rules for being on the 2nd apron and we would definitely end up on the 2nd apron. Scottie-OG-IQ-RJ would be 135 million by 25-26. Cap will be 150ish million by then with the 2nd apron being 190ish, but it gets hard to add cap space once you sneak up to the cap. It's one of those things that takes a few years of spending your exceptions, trading for players with term left, using your bird rights on everything in house, etc, etc.
MindzEye
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MindzEye
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A bit more of a dive into that. Game 1 & 2 of the Bucks series, Pascal had his best and 3rd best playoff games ever according to Game Score (#2 was game 1 of the finals against the warriors). His average game score from those 2 games was 31.8
Put another way, during the entire championship run Kawhi had 2 games better than 31.8
Since then he's averaged 12.5
Put another way, during the entire championship run Kawhi had 2 games better than 31.8
Since then he's averaged 12.5
Wayward DP
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the FT% is just unacceptable. but glad it's no longer sewering the raps
MindzEye
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Tyrese Haliburton isn't why he can't hit free throws tho....
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