2024-25 NHL Misc. Thread
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Here are the officials for the conference finals. All of them have made it to at least this round before.
Referees: Francis Charron, Eric Furlatt, Jean Hebert, Wes McCauley, Dan O’Rourke, Garrett Rank, Chris Rooney Kelly Sutherland. Standby: Graham Skilliter
Linesmen: Devin Berg, Scott Cherrey, Ryan Daisy, Ryan Gibbons, Trent Knorr, Matt MacPherson, Bevan Mills, Jonny Murray. Standby: James Tobias
Chris Rooney, who was cut over the eye last night, is expected to be available. Rank is the only ref that hasn’t worked in the Stanley Cup Final. Linesmen Gibbons, Knorr and Mills haven’t worked in the Cup Final.
Referees: Francis Charron, Eric Furlatt, Jean Hebert, Wes McCauley, Dan O’Rourke, Garrett Rank, Chris Rooney Kelly Sutherland. Standby: Graham Skilliter
Linesmen: Devin Berg, Scott Cherrey, Ryan Daisy, Ryan Gibbons, Trent Knorr, Matt MacPherson, Bevan Mills, Jonny Murray. Standby: James Tobias
Chris Rooney, who was cut over the eye last night, is expected to be available. Rank is the only ref that hasn’t worked in the Stanley Cup Final. Linesmen Gibbons, Knorr and Mills haven’t worked in the Cup Final.
I get the reluctance, but Carolina is badly short on passing skills which is why Hall made such a big difference ... especially on whatever PP unit he's on during any given game. Necas had some of that, but was WAY too prone to mental vacations and just general selfishness. Turbo used to give them some of that passing savvy but he eventually just got too slow to keep up. Look at Carolina's nominal top six and tell me who the actual playmakers are. They've got plenty of guys who make plays with their hustle and puck retrieving, but are woefully short on guys who do the stuff Marner makes look routine ... unlocking the trap, making the headman pass, finding the diagonal cut into the crease, actually connecting on the backdoor.
Again. Is he perfect? No. Would he be a fit? You can never say for sure, but he's got more of the profile that would fit here than most elite offensive players.
Quite a collection of cowards, there. Maybe three guys out of that group even think about raising the arm on a tough call in a crucial situation.
SlapShots
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It’s sad Marner is the scapegoat in TO. There is talent on that team, but seems to me their Core 4 are all wired in a similar manner and molded the same way.
No way Kyle Dubas did what he did without Brendon Shanahan’s handprints on that thinking. Dubas was like every GM in a similar situation- forgo the future for winning now. Shanahan thought he had wunderkinds on the ice and in his front office.
No way Kyle Dubas did what he did without Brendon Shanahan’s handprints on that thinking. Dubas was like every GM in a similar situation- forgo the future for winning now. Shanahan thought he had wunderkinds on the ice and in his front office.
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cmaleski2
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Francios St.Laurent is left out of the conference Finals....deservedly so after that Jordan Staal high sticking debacle.
Pucking Lamplighter
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I was completely apalled by the Leaf's lack of Game 7 killer instinct. They were skating around like it was a freaking weeknight pickup game, instead of totally playing their asses off and going after every loose puck, forecheck & backcheck, like their lives depended on it. I can't imagine playing in that big of a Go Big or Go Home-type game and not completely emptying the tank. I guess I'm just spoiled by Carolina's boring play? The Hurricanes seem to have a much higher "Give a [Polar's word}" attitude and drive than the Leafs possessed and displayed last night. I also sat there trying to imagine how much money some of the seats for that game cost, yet THAT was the effort their fans were rewarded with? Seriously, WTAF was that?!...besides a damn shame! I sincerely hope they were booed, they deserved it, so did the coaching staff, who clearly didn't have that team 100% ready to battle in every facet of the game. Let us pick your pocket, then reward you with next to nothing.
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CanadaCanes
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The puzzling thing about Shanahan as a manager is when you look back at that guy as a player he was a guy that knew exactly what it takes to win in the playoffs, gritty, do anything mentality and skate through walls to win a series when you needed him. He hitched his wagons to a core 4 and essentially with Reilly a core 5 for almost 10 years and not once did he acknowledge that none of those guys are wired to do all the things it takes in the post season to win but he just wanted to keep running it back. I agree with you that all four were wired the same and you simply can’t have that.
Context matters, I think. Shanahan decided to stick with his group in hopes that they would mature into the burden in the same way the core group in St Louis did and in the same way that core group he joined in Detroit did. Those were both Championship teams that took a long, long time on simmer before they got the silverware. People always assume that GMs and decision makers who were players mold their teams in their own images, and that's OK as far as it goes. But I think it's much more a case that decision makers are impacted by the environments in which they had success as players, and the successes they see others having during the years when they're cutting their teeth as manager types. In a lot of ways I think it's easier for guys like Rutherford, BriseBois, Wadell and Tulsky who either had unsuccessful careers as players or non-playing careers to be more pragmatic and systemic in their thinking. Even old war horses like Holland, Armstrong and Lamoriello came from outside the NHL bubble or from the fringes of it. Just like in other pro sports, it can be hard for guys who were truly impactful in their playing careers to translate into great front office leaders. And it goes WAY deeper than the usual thing about Gretzky just telling guys to go do what he would have done kind of thing. For example, Michael Jordan wasn't a bad NBA owner because he was a great player. He was a bad NBA owner because he was broke (by NBA standards) and lazy. Like I say, context matters.
TheBigKahuna
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I tuned out and went to bed last night, the Oilers thoroughly taking it to the Stars. Hop in the truck this AM and they're taking about a Stars win....WTF? I went to bed and missed all the fireworks.
Same other than truck. Now I'm standing in a line that doesn't move to get my license renewed 8 spots in 2 hours.
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TheBigKahuna
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Its a Honda Ridgeline, some say it's not a truck. More of a Honda ElAccordo.
StormChaserBH
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Never leave early! 
Oilers fell apart taking penalties and Stars were full-value on their power play for that 3rd period.
Oilers fell apart taking penalties and Stars were full-value on their power play for that 3rd period.We went to a practice at the RecZone during the 2006 playoffs. When it was over, the players had to walk a gauntlet of kids looking for autographs. Some of the younger players jumped into their fancy cars, Brind’Amour climbed into a Ridgeline.
Yeah, Roddy had a Ridgeline when he was playing. The rest of the guys gave him a hard time about it, but the embarrassing one (for me at least ) was Francis' ridiculous huge Mercedes with the custom "Franchise" license plate. So freaking full of himself.
Queue up the 3rd period highlights if you want to see a team absolutely come unglued. Edmonton went from firmly in control to unfamiliar with how to play the sport in the space of about 5 minutes.
SlapShots
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The thing that really got me with your comment— you had sense enough to be embarrassed for him.