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2024-25 NHL Misc. Thread

Dougie freaking wishes he was as good as Bouchard. You guys are letting a VERY small sample size define a VERY good player. This is a 25 year old defenseman who has already posted a point per game season and averaged more than a point per game in his playoff career. Yeah, he was gonna get some money.
Ok. I just thought it was too much for a guy who was a weak link for them against Florida. Yeah he can score but if he struggles defensively and loses his breakout ability when punished. Just based on what I saw in the finals. It’s a lot of money.

That’s not how you win a cup. How many 10 million plus guys can fit on a roster before your lack of through the lineup depth kills you?
 
Bouchard’s contract has $4 million in salary and $38 million in signing bonus.

Yr 1 1M Base & 11M Signing Bonus
Yr 2 1M & 11M SB
Yr 3 1M & 8M SB, No Move Clause
Yr 4 1M & 8M SB, No Move Clause
 
Bouchard’s contract has $4 million in salary and $38 million in signing bonus.

Yr 1 1M Base & 11M Signing Bonus
Yr 2 1M & 11M SB
Yr 3 1M & 8M SB, No Move Clause
Yr 4 1M & 8M SB, No Move Clause
Seems to be a growing trend even without the threat of a work stoppage. I guess guys are getting more professional investment advice these days, because you have a lot more flexibility with the lump sum than you do with monthly payroll checks.
 
Nice to hear the NHL, NHLPA and IIHF hammered out the last of the hurdles to allow NHL players to travel to the 2026 Winter Olympics.
 
Elliotte Friedman saying that the Devs may have talked to other teams about trading Dougie. Nothing concrete, just whispers.
 
Elliotte Friedman saying that the Devs may have talked to other teams about trading Dougie. Nothing concrete, just whispers.
It’s inevitable given his disappearance in playoff games. He’s too easy to get off his game and is not mean enough with a stick (see Joni Pitkanen) or as physical as Luke Schenn. At that price, if he can’t produce and can’t change a game with his play, well…
 
I figure the Devils have probably done a lot more than think and whisper about moving Dougie. They've got three more seasons of a guy with a $9 mil Cap hit and he's only really delivered as expected one season out of four on the team. It's not all his fault, because much of his shortcomings in NJ have come down to injuries, but that contract has turned into a bit of an albatross. At 32 years old with a fair amount of miles on the tires, can you project that they'll get full value from Hamilton going forward? Because I can't. He hasn't been able to stay healthy and hasn't really driven play like they thought he would ... and he's still Dougie in his own end. With L Hughes getting some traction on the power play this season and the team still needing to find a role for Nemec before they blow his entire ELC window, is Dougie a player they even need anymore, regardless of the AAV? You could make a pretty good argument that he's not. And that's before you even open the playoff box.

And honestly, the time is now. Karlsson is probably the only comparable defenseman in the shop window at the moment and there are a LOT of teams trying to get better, with plenty of Cap space and no free agents to spend it on. They should hang a for sale sign on the guy. A big one.
 
It’s inevitable given his disappearance in playoff games. He’s too easy to get off his game and is not mean enough with a stick (see Joni Pitkanen) or as physical as Luke Schenn. At that price, if he can’t produce and can’t change a game with his play, well…
Yeah, and with that contract too. They've got some real talent that will be coming up for new contracts soon, right?
 
Yeah, and with that contract too. They've got some real talent that will be coming up for new contracts soon, right?
Not really. They've got Luke Hughes in his first RFA window now, with $6+ million available. Then Nemec will be in the last year of his ELC and they'll have to make a decision on Markstrom after this season. Otherwise their guys are pretty well locked up. But throwing $9 million at a guy who's producing value in the $6-7 million range is a bad investment that's looking to get worse while he ages.

Not to mention, if they want to get better in the short run, he's the closest thing they have to a bargaining chip. I like what they did adding Connor Brown and Dadanov up front, but it doesn't change their math all that much. With the Rangers looking to rebound in the Metro and Washington looking fairly stable, I'm not sure you can do much more than pencil them in as 3rd or 4th in the division.
 
And honestly, the time is now. Karlsson is probably the only comparable defenseman in the shop window at the moment and there are a LOT of teams trying to get better, with plenty of Cap space and no free agents to spend it on. They should hang a for sale sign on the guy. A big one.

Stupid Canes. We shoulda re-signed him for whatever he wanted. Then this could be our problem.
 
Not really. They've got Luke Hughes in his first RFA window now, with $6+ million available. Then Nemec will be in the last year of his ELC and they'll have to make a decision on Markstrom after this season. Otherwise their guys are pretty well locked up. But throwing $9 million at a guy who's producing value in the $6-7 million range is a bad investment that's looking to get worse while he ages.

Not to mention, if they want to get better in the short run, he's the closest thing they have to a bargaining chip. I like what they did adding Connor Brown and Dadanov up front, but it doesn't change their math all that much. With the Rangers looking to rebound in the Metro and Washington looking fairly stable, I'm not sure you can do much more than pencil them in as 3rd or 4th in the division.
They really are in pretty good cap shape. They have Hischier in 2027-28 but most of the other guys coming up that year probably won’t be extended. But for all the problems trading Hamilton, his contract is buyout proof too. They missed this window and he has a $10.5 million signing bonus this year. If they buy him out after next season, he’ll actually cost them an extra $40k because he has a $7.4 million signing bonus due. They’d save $4.2 million in 2027-28 but he’d cost a little over $1 million in the last 2 years of the buyout period.
 
Stupid Canes. We shoulda re-signed him for whatever he wanted. Then this could be our problem.
Hindsight is fun, isn't it? That said, I have zero doubts that Dougie would have been better here than he's been in NJ. The system fit him better and you simply cannot over-state the impact of playing next to Slavin.
 
I remember the conventional...*ahem*...wisdom at the time of Dougie's signing with NJ is that he was the reason Slavin was so good. Well, among hockey fans the most.
 
They really are in pretty good cap shape. They have Hischier in 2027-28 but most of the other guys coming up that year probably won’t be extended. But for all the problems trading Hamilton, his contract is buyout proof too. They missed this window and he has a $10.5 million signing bonus this year. If they buy him out after next season, he’ll actually cost them an extra $40k because he has a $7.4 million signing bonus due. They’d save $4.2 million in 2027-28 but he’d cost a little over $1 million in the last 2 years of the buyout period.
Yeah. I think Fitzgerald has done a really good job as GM in Jersey. He seemed like a stretch when he took over from Shero, but he's done solid work building a roster and not getting all bunched up with bad contracts. That Hamilton deal was one they felt they had to make to get the program jump started and it mostly worked. It would have worked a lot better if he could have stayed healthy, but that's a roll of the dice. The structure of the contract was the price of admission to even think about getting the player and it sucks.
 
Flyers re-sign dman Cam York, 5 years, $5.25 million AAV. He was a RFA with arbitration rights.
 
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