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Around the League 2019-2026 Edition

NJD drafted Hischier 1st overall in 2017, a year after we got Matthews.. Hughes 1st overall in 2019. Then Holtz 7th, Luke Hughes 4th, Nemec 2nd, Silayev 10th in subsequent years.

In those 9 years since Hischier was drafted, they've made the playoffs 3 times, and won one playoffs series (4yrs ago).

Their league finishes:

'23: .683pts% (#4)
'18: .591pts% (#15)
'25: .555pts% (#17)
'26: .530pts% (#21)
'24: .494pts% (#23)
'20: .493pts% (#26)
'19: .439pts% (#29)
'21: .402pts% (#29)
'22: .384pts% (#29)

so only twice in the top half of the league.

Hischier and Bratt are now 28. Hughes is 25. Meier is 30. Hamilton is 33. Markstrom is 37. Allen is 36.

between the leafs and devils, which team do you think has generally been considered as the better built, more talented, more up and coming team over the past decade, and even right now going into this offseason?


in comparison, only once in the last 10yrs (this past season) have the leafs finished with a lower pts% than the devils' 3rd best season.
 
Rielly, Nylander, Marner, Matthews in the first round over 5 years is pretty nuts.

Its rare for teams to end up with 4 stars in 5 years. They were good immediately. Shanny blew it pretty bad.
 
Chabot (28): 57gms, 36.7toi% (-1.0dzs%), 54.4xgf% (-1.0rel), 0.78p1/60, 1.02p/60
Zub (30): 81gms, 35.5toi% (+6.6dzs%), 53.8xgf% (-2.1rel), 0.79p1/60, 1.14p/60

Sanderson (23): 67gms, 35.4toi% (+0.9dzs%), 56.7xgf% (+1.5rel), 0.95p1/60, 1.32p/60
Spence (24): 73gms, 34.8toi% (-7.5dzs%), 61.7xgf% (+7.3rel), 0.65p1/60, 1.29p/60

Jensen (35): 61gms, 32.7toi% (+0.5dzs%), 51.7xgf% (-4.0rel), 0.63p1/60, 1.07p/60
Kleven (23): 70gms, 32.1toi% (-2.8dzs%), 55.1xgf% (-1.3rel), 0.79p1/60, 0.90p/60

Matinpalo (27): 50gms, 29.0toi% (+1.0dzs%), 52.1xgf% (-3.1rel), 0.26p1/60, 0.34p/60


Playoffs

Spence (24): 4gms, 46.0toi% (+2.5dzs%), 60.0xgf% (+15.6rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60
Chabot (28): 4gms, 43.1toi% (+5.6dzs%), 61.3xgf% (+19.9rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60

Sanderson (23): 3gms, 36.9toi% (-3.4dzs%), 25.7xgf% (-24.9rel), 0.97p1/60, 1.93p/60
Zub (30): 1gms, 17.8toi% (0.0dzs%), 14.8xgf% (-1.8rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60

Kleven (23): 2gms, 34.7toi% (+11.1dzs%), 30.8xgf% (-18.9rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60
Matinpalo (27): 4gms, 34.0toi% (+11.2dzs%), 29.7xgf% (-23.1rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60

Gilbert (29): 3gms, 17.8toi% (0.0dzs%), 29.4xgf% (-14.9rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60


Didn't realize the sens lost both zub and jensen for the playoffs. that didn't help.


Spence was absolutely sheltered in the regular season, but was forced up to the top pair in the playoffs with the injuries, and played very well.


i'm in.
 
Carlo, hilariously, fits what they're looking for on their blueline. They specifically talked about adding more size because something something playoff hockey at their season ending pressers.

It fits almost too well as a 1 for 1 swap. Carlo has a lower AAV this year than Spence's contract projection suggests he'll have, so cap (and dollar) savings. Carlo is a couple years older, but not old yet (29), has 85 games of playoff experience, played in the finals, etc.

Spence is a puck moving nerdies god. Good skater (77th percentile in bursts) is good at maintaining and extending offensive zone time, knows when to join the rush and can be dangerous finishing on the rush. Good point shot with the occasional bomb. Just good, and steady and smart with no single skill that jumps out as incredible but no real weaknesses other than 5'11 190, so thus, defective.
 
Knies-Matthews-Cowan
Maccelli-Hayton-Nylander
McKenna-Tavares-Robertson
Lorentz-Groulx-Joshua

McCabe-Spence
Zellweger-Tanev
OEL/Mo-Danford
Villeneuve
 
zeke said:
Chabot (28): 57gms, 36.7toi% (-1.0dzs%), 54.4xgf% (-1.0rel), 0.78p1/60, 1.02p/60
Zub (30): 81gms, 35.5toi% (+6.6dzs%), 53.8xgf% (-2.1rel), 0.79p1/60, 1.14p/60

Sanderson (23): 67gms, 35.4toi% (+0.9dzs%), 56.7xgf% (+1.5rel), 0.95p1/60, 1.32p/60
Spence (24): 73gms, 34.8toi% (-7.5dzs%), 61.7xgf% (+7.3rel), 0.65p1/60, 1.29p/60

Jensen (35): 61gms, 32.7toi% (+0.5dzs%), 51.7xgf% (-4.0rel), 0.63p1/60, 1.07p/60
Kleven (23): 70gms, 32.1toi% (-2.8dzs%), 55.1xgf% (-1.3rel), 0.79p1/60, 0.90p/60

Matinpalo (27): 50gms, 29.0toi% (+1.0dzs%), 52.1xgf% (-3.1rel), 0.26p1/60, 0.34p/60


Playoffs

Spence (24): 4gms, 46.0toi% (+2.5dzs%), 60.0xgf% (+15.6rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60
Chabot (28): 4gms, 43.1toi% (+5.6dzs%), 61.3xgf% (+19.9rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60

Sanderson (23): 3gms, 36.9toi% (-3.4dzs%), 25.7xgf% (-24.9rel), 0.97p1/60, 1.93p/60
Zub (30): 1gms, 17.8toi% (0.0dzs%), 14.8xgf% (-1.8rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60

Kleven (23): 2gms, 34.7toi% (+11.1dzs%), 30.8xgf% (-18.9rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60
Matinpalo (27): 4gms, 34.0toi% (+11.2dzs%), 29.7xgf% (-23.1rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60

Gilbert (29): 3gms, 17.8toi% (0.0dzs%), 29.4xgf% (-14.9rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60


Didn't realize the sens lost both zub and jensen for the playoffs. that didn't help.


Spence was absolutely sheltered in the regular season, but was forced up to the top pair in the playoffs with the injuries, and played very well.


i'm in.
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Yeah, I think coaches have sheltered Spence because small, and not because he can't do the job in his end. He had the lowest xGA on the Kings among regular defenders in 24-25 and then did it again for Ottawa this year. That's not accidental. That's coaching size bias in dumb organizations leading to unnecessary sheltering.
 
hockeylover said:
Spence seems like an easy call no? Why are they moving him?

Edit Nvm Mindz answered already
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I watched a chunk of their season end presser and kind of "called" this at the time, that Spence was the likely odd man out and should be high on our list to go and get this summer. They're dumb, mad that they can't win in the playoffs, and think that they need to get bigger.
 
In Chayka’s interviews today, he said we’re deep in trade talks. I’m sure he’s antsy to make a move but these lingering playoffs probably have teams distracted or something, or maybe there’s some unwritten rule about trading before the cup gets awarded.
 
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