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2024-25 Canes Miscellaneous Thread

HNIM said:
Dang, I was going to quote myself on this, then I re-read... "Outside of the confines of this board..."

That being said, a lucky decision on his part, given the stratospheric jump in the cap being bandied about.
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Oh, his timing couldn't be better. He might get the short end of the stick next season (I don't want to hear about THIS season because he's freaking lucky he got what he got last summer), but with the Cap increasing rapidly he'll make a ton more in the long run thanks to that bridge deal. The guys who signed long term deals between the Cap constriction in 2021 and this past off season will get hosed, but there's no way to predict these swings.
 
He said after practice that he still wasn’t sure if Jarvis would travel, they wanted to see how he felt when he came off the ice.
 
Honestly ... better not to push it with Jarvis. If he's not for sure, may as well let him join the team in Columbus or wait until they come home to play Dallas. It's a pretty grueling stretch coming up and the team is playing reasonably well. No reason for any false starts.
 
jeffbear said:
Honestly ... better not to push it with Jarvis. If he's not for sure, may as well let him join the team in Columbus or wait until they come home to play Dallas. It's a pretty grueling stretch coming up and the team is playing reasonably well. No reason for any false starts.
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Yep. It’s not like Carrier is out of place on Staal’s line or Jost doesn’t fit with Drury. They’re fine for now.
 
Well, Jost is adding mostly nothing aside from that inadvertent deflection for a goal in his first game but he's not a shift killer either. Not hard to see why he didn't make the roster out of camp. Still, it's fine because Blake is electric and Drury is still the smartest positional player on the team not named Slavin or Staal.
 
HeyKurtz said:
ESPN has put the Canes at #1 in their Future Power Rankings, which ranks teams based on expectations for the next three seasons.

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NHL Future Power Rankings: Predicting best, worst teams for the next three seasons

Which NHL teams are set up for long-term success? We stacked all 32 franchises' expectations through 2026-27.
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850 had some chatter on that too and it was pretty positive the way things align for the big Burns and Orlov contracts coming off the books freeing up more cap space, the depth of the prospect pool and the core big boys in place. If the cap goes up even more than projected that's even better for teams like Carolina to do whatever they may want to do to load up. The Athletic today also had the Canes as one of two teams that could be looking at John Gibson as a 1B option if the Ducks were willing to eat half of that cap hit. If Freddy is done, half of Gibson's contract sits right in that same ballpark range of what Freddy was eating up on the cap. I'm not sure if a healthy Gibson would be revitalized coming to a better defensive team like Carolina but the gist of the article was the need for more depth in goal here with Freddy out long term.
 
CanadaCanes said:
The Athletic today also had the Canes as one of two teams that could be looking at John Gibson as a 1B option if the Ducks were willing to eat half of that cap hit.
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Pierre LeBrun has been stuck on that idea for a couple of years now. No idea if the Canes reciprocate Pierre's enthusiasm for Gibson or not, but this will be the third season where he's been kinda/sorta on the block. So, it's not like the opportunity hasn't been there before. The biggest downside with Gibson other than his persistently iffy form is of course the contract. Even if Anaheim eats half, he's still signed through the 2026-27 season. That's not nothing.
 
jeffbear said:
Pierre LeBrun has been stuck on that idea for a couple of years now. No idea if the Canes reciprocate Pierre's enthusiasm for Gibson or not, but this will be the third season where he's been kinda/sorta on the block. So, it's not like the opportunity hasn't been there before. The biggest downside with Gibson other than his persistently iffy form is of course the contract. Even if Anaheim eats half, he's still signed through the 2026-27 season. That's not nothing.
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True, but given that lack of a sure-fire goaltending prospect in our system, I'm not sure a tandem of Koochie and Gibson for the next two-and-a-half years would be a bad thing.
 
I know the Ducks have been down for a while now, but I look at these Save%s:

.914
.920
.924
.926
.917
<- Start of his 8 year $6.8 million AAV contract, do with that what you will....
.904
.903
.904
.899
.888
.906 (in just 3 games this season)

And I see a goalie who might be cooked.

Even at an AAV of $3.7 million, I don't trust Gibson enough to want to even be on the hook for that. I would rather spend that money on other goalies. Now, that said, if you can figure out a way to get double retention on him and bring the Canes AAV number to $1.85 million (or even $2 million) then I could stomach the risk. We have a boatload of Russian prospects (16) we can trade to some other team to eat part of Gibson's contract as part of that double retention (not that I don't enjoy figuring out every week where all 16 of them are playing)
 
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cmaleski2 said:
I know the Ducks have been down for a while now, but I look at these Save%s:

.914
.920
.924
.926
.917
<- Start of his 8 year $6.8 million AAV contract, do with that what you will....
.904
.903
.904
.899
.888
.906 (in just 3 games this season)

And I see a goalie who might be cooked.

Even at an AAV of $3.7 million, I don't trust Gibson enough to want to even be on the hook for that. I would rather spend that money on other goalies. Now, that said, if you can figure out a way to get double retention on him and bring the Canes AAV number to $1.85 million (or even $2 million) then I could stomach the risk. We have a boatload of Russian prospects (16) we can trade to some other team to eat part of Gibson's contract as part of that double retention (not that I don't enjoy figuring out every week where all 16 of them are playing)
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I am going to take back what I said.

Not because of this save percentage data—which I don’t love because it treats all shots as equally “saveable”—but I just reviewed Gibson’s Goals vs. Expected Per 60 scores for the last few years and they’re not very good.
 
The big question with goalies on crap teams is just how much of their stat line is on the situation. Some of it is, for sure. But you have to scout like crazy to tease out the reality, especially when you factor in motivation and mental fatigue. Case in point ... Jonathan Quick. He looked like a turkey carcass the day after Thanksgiving when he left LA a few years ago ... and he was old and beat down by injuries to boot. He gets a dose of hope playing for a contending Vegas team after a deadline deal and then lands in NY as Shesty's super backup, where he has been basically flawless. I've have NEVER bet on that happening. And it's not like the Kings were all that bad, but they had gone from a contender to a team that was happy to make the playoffs and that wasn't Quickie's bag at all.
 
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