2024-25 Canes Miscellaneous Thread
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Malone was here for basically the nadir of the lost decade, so I'm VERY fuzzy on the details. His two seasons were Bill Peters' first two seasons, the first of which was Carolina's second lowest full season point total since the move south and the second was ... checks ... FIVE wins better. That whole era can eff off.
Fayettenamcanesfan
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Brind'Amour says handshake line for coaches, too
Hurricanes coach Rod Brind'Amour said he was surprised when Panthers coach Paul Maurice asked him not to participate in their series-ending handshake line last week.
Maurice continues his dive into total douchbagery - he’s arrived. How the heck does he know what they used to do sine he barely ever made the playoffs. I don’t blame him - he likes to take his swipes in the media and encourages his teams cheap and dirty play. Of course he doesn’t want to shake the opponents’ hands he’d have to face them. He’s a total ass.
Fayettenamcanesfan
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Look, my situation with Maurice is different because I know him and worked with/for him for several years. I really liked him….. his players, staff and other employees did too. Whether you like him as a coach or what he says, is one thing, but he’s not a douchebag or any other shithole name you want to give him. He’s a really good guy and has turned into a pretty damn good coach. There are plenty of douchebags and awful people in this world you can apply that label too if you wish. Sorry you guys disagree but Maurice is the furthest from a bad guy in this league as you can get.
CanadaCanes
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The vibe he gives off is not great, you can certainly say working with him he is great, fair enough, but the guy still does a lot of shit with Florida that is total douche bag stuff, it’s easy to see what he has done, he’s been a lifer in the league as a coach, he has pushed the envelope as far as he can go to win at all costs and the league allows it. You can see both sides of it, the goal is to win at all costs but to take players heads off and run guys into next week and to endorse that for your players to do is still a douche bag thing to do, right or wrong. The real crime might be the NHL to not enforce the rules enough to let old MO and his gang of idiots get away with the douche bag stuff.
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bagopux
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I have no problem with him not doing the handshake line and suggesting that others not do it. I do not like how some of his players go about the business of playing hockey and I have to think he could set a tone that could diminish that if he wanted to. But I have no reason to think he’s just a jerk through and through. We’ve all got our issues.
HeyKurtz
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I don’t like the way Maurice teams play, but I too will never call him a douchebag. I coached his son for a season in house league and dealing with Paul and his wife Michelle—who everyone calls “Mitch”—was always a pleasure. In fact, Paul always made it a point to stay in the background to avoid putting pressure on his son and did so in a way that I always respected. If every set of hockey parents were like The Maurices, I may have continued coaching youth hockey after my son stopped playing.
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Pucking Lamplighter
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You mean the, "This Is Hockey" should have really had a question mark behind the statement?
cmaleski2
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I would challenge anyone who calls the current Canes system 'boring hockey' to watch a Canes game from the early Maurice years.
One thing Mo has been able to do is learn and adapt. Its ok to not like his quirky personality, or his systems or his teams, but the guy is a great NHL head coach. He will be a hall of famer someday and will fully deserve the honor.
One thing Mo has been able to do is learn and adapt. Its ok to not like his quirky personality, or his systems or his teams, but the guy is a great NHL head coach. He will be a hall of famer someday and will fully deserve the honor.
ThinIce
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We used to joke that the theme should read: "This is hockey?"
ThinIce
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It's good to have this discussion on Maurice. I attended a few business luncheons/meetings with the Canes representing my company years ago and always appreciated Maurice's (and Rutherford's) honesty fielding pointed questions. One moment in particular was when we were meeting after the Canes had just reached a 14-game losing streak (as I recall) and Maurice had to speak to the crowd. He did a good job under the worst possible situation. We had a few good seasons and many awful ones during his coaching tenure (both of them), but much of that was PK's unwillingness to spend more on talent.
That said, Florida plays a dirty game. Whether that's all on the coach, it's clear Maurice doesn't try to stop it. Of course, if you're winning games and championships, I suppose I would look the other way, too. But ultimately, that's on the NHL for not strictly protecting players against this.
That said, Florida plays a dirty game. Whether that's all on the coach, it's clear Maurice doesn't try to stop it. Of course, if you're winning games and championships, I suppose I would look the other way, too. But ultimately, that's on the NHL for not strictly protecting players against this.
Agreed. Mo is a lot of things, but douchebag (or whatever anyone uses to denote miscreant in their own vernacular) ain't one of them. There's nothing malicious about the man. He believes in hard nosed hockey and uses the resources his GMs give him as best he can. Do I like how Florida plays? No, I do not. They've collected a group that plays with a callous disregard for the health of their opponents, led by one of the most immature players of his generation in Matt Tkachuk. Mo allows that collection of merry idiots to run wild, which I 100% do take issue with, and he absolutely deserves to have to justify their behavior ... which in my opinion includes looking the other team in the eye at the end of a series. Mo may not be a d-bag, but he's got more than one on that team and for my money he doesn't do nearly enough to make sure they aren't running around out there trying to injure people. And again, this is nothing new for him. We had an arguably over the line dirty team or two while he was coaching the Canes. And if you watched the 98-99 Canes and can't admit to yourself that they were dirty, then I suggest some self reflection on the distorting nature of fandom and rooting interests.
Speaking of old friends ...
Anybody who is wondering how the Marty Necas off season experience is going in Denver need not worry that it's not living up to established norms. My son tipped me to this report ... which indicates that Colorado started exploring extension negotiations with Necas only to find that he wasn't "overly thrilled" with his experience in Colorado and wants to be able to explore other options. AKA, exactly the same position he would have taken if Carolina had kept him. He is 100% going to hit the open market next July or else be wildly over-paid. There is no doubt about that and never had been. For the "Carolina can't keep good players" crowd ... hey, sometimes it's about the dude, not the market.
Wonderfully talented player. Absolute prick. And honestly, if Colorado isn't 100% convinced that they can (and want to) re-sign him then they SHOULD be exploring the market for trading Necas. Heck, Tulsky would probably take him back as a full year rental ... for like a 3rd rounder and one of our many pocket sized prospects.
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Anybody who is wondering how the Marty Necas off season experience is going in Denver need not worry that it's not living up to established norms. My son tipped me to this report ... which indicates that Colorado started exploring extension negotiations with Necas only to find that he wasn't "overly thrilled" with his experience in Colorado and wants to be able to explore other options. AKA, exactly the same position he would have taken if Carolina had kept him. He is 100% going to hit the open market next July or else be wildly over-paid. There is no doubt about that and never had been. For the "Carolina can't keep good players" crowd ... hey, sometimes it's about the dude, not the market.
Wonderfully talented player. Absolute prick. And honestly, if Colorado isn't 100% convinced that they can (and want to) re-sign him then they SHOULD be exploring the market for trading Necas. Heck, Tulsky would probably take him back as a full year rental ... for like a 3rd rounder and one of our many pocket sized prospects.
Report: Avalanche forward Martin Necas not 'overly thrilled' with time in Colorado
Sportsnet's Nick Kypreos came out with a list of NHL players to watch as potential trade candidates this offseason; Martin Necas made the list
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So we can say “Necas is a prick” but not “Mo is a Douchebag”. Because Mo has some aspects of his character that are perhaps admirable. Like being a good hockey parent for example so he must be overall good.
Apparently Necas character is known to be wholly prick like?
Apparently Necas character is known to be wholly prick like?
You can say Mo is douchebag all you want so long as you're willing to accept that someone (or several someones) might disagree with you. I can say Necas is a prick and I welcome any arguments to the contrary with open arms. The argument that I can't call Necas a prick because somebody pushed back on the idea that some other person entirely is a douchebag is not an actual argument, but ... cool.
Sure. Whatever you say.