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2024-25 NHL Misc. Thread

Elliotte Friedman says the Rangers are bringing in former head coach David Quinn and Joe Sacco as assistants.
 
No discussion on Florida's first gift, err goal? That looked like Bennett shuffled his feet and fell right into Skinner to me and should have been called goaltender interference all day long. I don't know what the off ice officials were smoking, but it must have blinded them. Florida doing what Florida does and they got away with it. What a shame that those are the "best" officials on the planet and the most capable refs of doing a good job. That seemed mighty intentional to me.

Jim
 
Pucking Lamplighter said:
No discussion on Florida's first gift, err goal? That looked like Bennett shuffled his feet and fell right into Skinner to me and should have been called goaltender interference all day long. I don't know what the off ice officials were smoking, but it must have blinded them. Florida doing what Florida does and they got away with it. What a shame that those are the "best" officials on the planet and the most capable refs of doing a good job. That seemed mighty intentional to me.

Jim
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He flopped like a striker in the penalty area when he felt contact. Damn near corkscrewed himself into the ice.
 
andyt said:
He flopped like a striker in the penalty area when he felt contact. Damn near corkscrewed himself into the ice.
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Ya there was a skate clip (by the 2nd defender, not the one everyone was originally thinking was tied up with Bennett, and not really visible on the first couple angles) keeping the goal "legal" but he sure made the most of it flopping backwards into the crease.
 
Smart play by Bennett really. Sure that is 'underhanded, dirty, etc.', but show me a team with no players trying to use rules to their advantage?

Sam Bennett man....someone is going to dump a ridiculous amount of money into his lap in the offseason. He looks like he is playing faster than everyone else out there (except for MacDavid of course), finishing breakaways, finishing around the net, banging everyone around out there, cheap shotting goalies....
 
StormChaserBH said:
Ya there was a skate clip (by the 2nd defender, not the one everyone was originally thinking was tied up with Bennett, and not really visible on the first couple angles) keeping the goal "legal" but he sure made the most of it flopping backwards into the crease.
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Freaking Kulak. I think he was trying to get some part of his body in front of the net anticipating the shot and he just clipped Bennett's skate enough to justify the Fosbery Flop that followed. Bennett was correct to make the most of it, and considering the contact he sometimes makes with various NHL goalies Skinner should consider himself lucky. I wanted them to waive it off, but when I saw that one view that showed the feet more clearly, I knew they wouldn't. I think Edmonton was rash to challenge and I wonder if they looked at more than a couple of angles first.

And yes, Bennett is 100% on top of his game. Combine his contract situation with a chance to win back to back Cups and he's turned into a temporary hero. They've needed it too, with Tkachuk still looking like a bit of a shadow.
 
I mean, he kind of made it so Nill had to choose between his goalie or his coach. Not sure why Nill gets a pass on stuff that gets other people criticized though. I've been harping on that for a while now. I'm also unsure why Jared Bednar somehow isn't accountable for the post-Cup results in Colorado.
 
bagopux said:
In 15 full seasons of coaching DeBoer has been to the conference final or beyond 8 times.
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True, but he hasn't been "beyond" since 2016 with the Sharks. It's bonkers, but DeBoer has been to 6 straight Western finals with 3 different teams and lost EVERY one of them. That's remarkable consistency AND remarkable futility.
 
jeffbear said:
True, but he hasn't been "beyond" since 2016 with the Sharks. It's bonkers, but DeBoer has been to 6 straight Western finals with 3 different teams and lost EVERY one of them. That's remarkable consistency AND remarkable futility.
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It’s like the Canes’ streak though. With the Stars - I think they’re somewhat overrated. They did well (maybe overachieved) to beat the Avalanche. They ran into another well coached team that was more talented and were not able to overcome that. Seems like an elimination style playoff leads to playing better and better teams as you go. More chance of meeting a better team right?

It seems like some of these “improbabilities” are fodder for the broadcasters but probably not really statistically improbable.
 
The narrative surrounding the two teams couldn't be more different though. Dallas somehow earned the seal of approval somewhere along the way so they don't get the same kind of raised eyebrows that the Canes get or that the Blues got before they eventually won. Not sure when Dallas turned into a name brand either, because they absolutely didn't used to be. They were outsiders when they won that Cup in 1999 and spent almost 20 years doing nothing much afterwards.

And I'm not jealous for my own team so much as I'm literally puzzled. Usually you have to be a traditional market or actually win something to get the slack they get.
 
They don’t like the Canes approach. Dallas is a more traditional style. The Canes lean on analytics and corsi etc. as opposed to going after the latest flavor. You know some of the Panthers are going to get overpaid hugely by teams and those will all be touted as great moves by a team/management that “knows what it takes to win” until they don’t- then crickets.

The athletic said in an article today about what teams can learn from the final four that going all in on your window was a lesson. How did that work out for Dallas. That’s not the lesson but I hope teams not from NC learn it well.
 
I guess. But the Blues had an old school GM and couldn't have had a more traditional approach since basically day one and yet they got hammered forever for being good but not good enough before their Cup win in 2019. I'm just pointing out how much of this media momentum stuff is built on vibes and not reality. Colorado and Vegas are also darlings but at least they both have recent Cups to their credit. And this crap about "going all in, all the time" is more for the media's amusement than anything else.
 
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