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2024 Free Agent Frenzy

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andyt

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Non-Canes signings go here, we can open a new thread for Canes signings.

Multiple reports that the Panthers and Sam Reinhart agreed on a 8 year deal just before the midnight deadline.
 
Reinhart got 8 years, $69 million, $8.625 million AAV. Even if you think 57 goals is an aberration, he scored 30+ in his first 2 years in Florida. That’s pretty good business from Zito.
 
7x$9 for Guentzel is $63 million

8x$8 million via the Canes is $64 million minus state income tax, which will gradually reduce to 3.99% in a few years. If you just call that , on average, a 4.10% reduction due to state income tax:

$64 million - 4% = $61.376 million.

Now granted the money is over 7 years instead of 8, but does anyone think Jake Guentzel really preferred to play for the Canes?

As I said before, if the narrative remains that Guentzel basically was given his ask by the Canes, but then reneged on that and decided to take a higher AAV elsewhere at the last second, he is going to be the new villain for a lot of fans.
 
cmaleski2 said:
As I said before, if the narrative remains that Guentzel basically was given his ask by the Canes, but then reneged on that and decided to take a higher AAV elsewhere at the last second, he is going to be the new villain for a lot of fans.
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Jake Guentzel, meet Erik Haula and Brooks Orpik. But I’m sure CanesVision will put together a fawning Welcome Back video, like the social media team thanked him after the trade. Screw that.

And I’m not sure how the narrative changes. Twitter was alive with folks on Saturday insistent that Guentzel’s team asked for 8x8 3 weeks ago. Then we hear from Cory Lavalette, who is a whole lot closer to Canes management than any of those hacks, that the ask was made on Wednesday and met on Thursday. So unless Tulsky et al were using Cory to save face, Saturday’s narrative was jive. And I don’t think the new GM wants to lie to one of the few guys that covers the team daily.
 
Guentzel at 7 x $9m is an overpay at the end of the day for a winger...I think we all could have lived with the $8m x 8 here and would have been ok with that but once you are at $9 it's high for a guy approaching his 30th birthday. Here's to hoping that money can be allocated to something creative by the brain trust today to plug that offensive hole.
 
Tulsky has no finesse game and doesn't strike me as a butt-covering guy either. If he straight up told Cory a sequence of events, we have no reason to doubt it. Not yet, at least.
 
cmaleski2 said:
7x$9 for Guentzel is $63 million

8x$8 million via the Canes is $64 million minus state income tax, which will gradually reduce to 3.99% in a few years. If you just call that , on average, a 4.10% reduction due to state income tax:

$64 million - 4% = $61.376 million.

Now granted the money is over 7 years instead of 8, but does anyone think Jake Guentzel really preferred to play for the Canes?

As I said before, if the narrative remains that Guentzel basically was given his ask by the Canes, but then reneged on that and decided to take a higher AAV elsewhere at the last second, he is going to be the new villain for a lot of fans.
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Also factor in higher property and sales taxes in Florida. And don’t forget hazard insurance. In the end, as between NC and FL, the no income tax thing is an illusion.
 
Dmitry Kulikov re-signs with Floriday, 4 years, $1.15 million AAV.

Connor Brown re-signs with Edmonton, 1 year, $1 million.
 
bagopux said:
Also factor in higher property and sales taxes in Florida. And don’t forget hazard insurance. In the end, as between NC and FL, the no income tax thing is an illusion.
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This is true to a degree. Most of the high income pro golfers who live in Florida rent their homes and maintain (cheaper) homes in other states so they can register cars and other luxury goods elsewhere to avoid some of the fees and taxes that Florida uses to prop up the State coffers. But they have benefit of cutting representation deals with high profile golf clubs that included furnished homes and loaner cars. Still, if you're smart, you can fudge around a lot of the alternative tax structure. Not that hockey players are famous for being smart with money.
 
Leafs re-sign a pair, Chris Tanev, whose rights they rptraded for over the weekend gets 6 years, $4.5 million AAV. Joseph Woll gets 3 years, $3.66 million AAV
 
We knew it was going to happen, but now we're confronting the reality of a very different team next year. Same coach & style, but very different pieces.
 
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