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we know that will never happen, we never fall into generational types, haven't had one since Roy in 1984
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No one thought Roy was generational when he was drafted. Im 3 seasons with Granby his GAA was 6.26, 4.44, and 5.55.
then we haven't in 53 years since we took Guy
Sal_Butera
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No one thought Kucherov was generational when he was drafted in the late 2nd round either…
GrandWazoo
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Was Roy generational?
nope
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No but he was iconic.
I agree, I don’t think Lundqvist, Price, Vasy match him during the last 20 years.
How about Lidstrom, at worst a Top-5 defender all time?
GrandWazoo
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Hell I might make the argument that Makar is generational. He's the McDavid of defensemen.
My definition of generational is you were labelled the next one to pass the torch
If you become Ovy or Roy thats fantastic
But the torch was passed from Mario-Sid-CMD
What 97 is doing is fucken ridiculous , greatest talent of all time as said by Jagr who played with all time greats
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Brodeur was as good if not better than Roy and he rose to prominence while Roy was still playing.
GGpX
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Easily. The generational d-men have been: Harvey -> Orr -> Potvin -> Bourque -> Lidstrom -> Makar.
When a player has a HHOF resumé at 23 years old? And he hasn't fallen off, he's actually still getting better?
At 23, Makar has one Norris & one second place finish, one Conn Smythe, one First Team All-NHL, one Second Team All-NHL. That's a HHOF resumé already.
Only 13 players in hockey history have won the Norris more than once; Every single Norris winner except Subban, Giordano & Carlyle is either in the HHOF or headed there eventually. And had Subban's back not gone out, he would have played long enough to make it himself.
As we speak, Makar has 4 top-3 finishes in Norris voting and he's probably going to win the Norris this year. But let's stick at 4. There's only a handful of players with more:
Raymond Bourque (15!!!! with 5 wins)
Zdeno Chara (6, 1 win)
Chris Chelios (6, 3 wins)
Paul Coffey (6, 3 wins)
Bill Gadsby (5, no wins)
Doug Harvey (8, 7 wins)
Victor Heman (6, 1 win)
Niklas Lidstrom (11, 7 wins)
Al MacInnis (6, 1 win)
Bobby Orr (9, 8 wins)
Brad Park (7, no wins)
Pierre Pilot (6, 3 wins)
Denis Potvin (6, 3 wins)
Larry Robinson (6, 2 wins)
That's the list of all players throughout hockey history with more top 3 Norris finishes than Makar... And Makar's just turned 26. I don't think it's crazy to think he might end up with 8-10 top-3 Norris finishes.
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GGpX
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Top 4 d-men are basically indisputable in my mind:
Orr's #1, Bourque's #2, Harvey's probably #3, Lidstrom's #4.
I can switch Harvey & Lidstrom, I'm open to it. But #1 and #2 are set in stone for me.
No Hedman interesting