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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

MindzEye said:
It's harder to get into OT than it is to win in 3v3

3v3 and shootouts for extra points is kind of gimmicky imo. If either were actually useful game modes, we would use them to decide playoff games.
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Each team gets a PP until one team scores more than the other.

Or a 3 point shooting contest
 
zeke said:
OT loss is a well earned 60min tie.

OT/SO win is just a fluke point earned from a gimmick situation that mostly comes down to luck.
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I don't agree with this. OT isn't an individual effort or skills competition like the shootout. There's just more room, and it's just as hard fought as regulation, if not harder - you see in pretty much every OT a few poor saps who get stuck because they can't make a line change and almost need ventilators to stay alive. It's often not an easy win (though sure, there are a bunch that end in the first 20 seconds).

I also don't think a win can just be chalked up to luck because it's 3v3. Just see our last two OT wins with Willy and Marner literally going through their whole team to win it - was that luck or an incredible individual effort? You sometimes see incredible back and forth, and generally at least one goalie stands on his head.

Shootout is a different story entirely and I hate it.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I don't agree with this. OT isn't an individual effort or skills competition like the shootout. There's just more room, and it's just as hard fought as regulation, if not harder - you see in pretty much every OT a few poor saps who get stuck because they can't make a line change and almost need ventilators to stay alive. It's often not an easy win (though sure, there are a bunch that end in the first 20 seconds).

I also don't think a win can just be chalked up to luck because it's 3v3. Just see our last two OT wins with Willy and Marner literally going through their whole team to win it - was that luck or an incredible individual effort? You sometimes see incredible back and forth, and generally at least one goalie stands on his head.

Shootout is a different story entirely and I hate it.
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OT Records

TBL 5-0
WPG 7-1
COL 5-1
NJD 7-3
ANA 6-3
BUF 6-3
CHI 4-2
VAN 4-2
STL 4-2
NYI 4-2
SEA 5-3
VGK 5-3
MIN 3-2
BOS 3-2
CBJ 4-3
OTT 4-3
WSH 5-4
CAR 7-6
MTL 4-4
DET 4-5
EDM 2-3
TOR 5-7
LAK 4-6
NSH 3-5
NYR 3-6
CGY 3-6
PIT 3-8
SJS 2-6
ARZ 1-4
DAL 2-8
FLA 1-5
PHI 1-8



Looks pretty random to me.
 
I don't follow.

Nobody ever said OT is the same as regulation, such that a good regulation team must necessarily be a good OT team lest it be all luck and random. OT is a different beast obviously, just as 4v4 is different during regulation than 5v5. Why aren't the Leafs absolutely dominant every year on the PP when they're always one of the top scoring teams at 5v5? Just bad luck when 5v4?

Both teams start out with 3 players in OT and neither is more or less of an advantage. It's not lucky, just different.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I don't follow.

Nobody ever said OT is the same as regulation, such that a good regulation team must necessarily be a good OT team lest it be all luck and random.
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Looks pretty random.


LeafOfFaith said:
OT is a different beast obviously, just as 4v4 is different during regulation than 5v5. Why aren't the Leafs absolutely dominant every year on the PP when they're always one of the top scoring teams at 5v5? Just bad luck when 5v4?

Both teams start out with 3 players in OT and neither is more or less of an advantage. It's not lucky, just different.
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Leafs have one of the best PPs in the league every year.
 
I don't recall that, other than maybe one year, since it always seems our PP has problems and we're always complaining about the assistant coaches and how we're not better. But I'll defer to you on that since I'm not going to bother looking it up. Either way with respect to the Leafs, and I'm sure there are plenty of examples every year of counterintuitive PP and PK performance, but doesn't change the rest of what I said. Sure, the nature of 3v3 means more scoring chances with the extra room, but the teams are equally situated and it's still a team exercise, not like a penalty shot one player versus one player gimmick.
 
Watching the highlights from yesterday and I swear the all star game is bad for the sport. Imagine someone giving it a try to see what the best players playing look like and they see this half speed, no D, no checking lazy garbage. I couldn’t watch even the highlights for more than five minutes.
 
All star event should be a showcase.

After the season, have your a stars compete in a PGA style golf tourney (with local golf tourney contests like closest to the pin etc). Mic the God loving fuck out of everyone. Same prize money, keep it competitive. We see enough of these guys playing hockey that we don't need to see them half assing an event half way through the year. Give hockey fans and non hockey fans a better glimpse at players personalities. Break up the off season and keep fan engagement levels up.
 
MindzEye said:
The man is intent on building the worst long term cap structured perennial 85 point team he can
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Barzal 9.15m til 33 yrs
Horvat 8.5m til 35yrs
Lee 7m til 35yrs
Nelson 6m til 33yrs
Bailey 5m til 34yrs
Pageau 5m til 33 yrs
Pulock 6.15m til 35yrs
Pelech 5.75m til 34yrs
Cizikas 2.5m til 35yrs
Martin 1.5m til 34yrs

Imagine locking up almost every single player up on a garbage team til they're 35. Have fun with that.
 
Also, what a Whore-vat, securing the bag with that shit team instead of testing the market in roughly 35 games from now.
 
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