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Nice find Mindz.....unsurprisingly it shows just what kind of dirtbag he is.

if he doesnt back down now sure

but for 3 pages it looked like ME was the one trying to get out of it (good thing he found the official wording and the 'tie' from last year)
 
This is pretty gay. Sensible (and I believe player and zeke) have all been using actual goal differential (i.e. excluding shootouts) all season throughout this thread, with nary a peep from anyone. Now all of a sudden when the Leafs are good at shootouts it's an issue?

bingo
 
I think all parties are all over the map - using both definitions.

But if we are trying to pin down the true intention of the bet, it's clearly goals for and goals against IN GAME.
 
The original terms of the bet were clear. Surely you're not going to work under the assumption that Sensible has always blindly accepted the way Zeke crunches numbers?

as it turns out...yes
but even you were not sure about the original terms

the problem is the timing
 
if he doesnt back down now sure

but for 3 pages it looked like ME was the one trying to get out of it (good thing he found the official wording and the 'tie' from last year)

I ask an honest question. Why would I try to get out of a bet that was tied? When I played the bet I was tied.

The guy has never had any time for the way we "spin" numbers around here. But now that it suits him, Zeke's Math >>>>>>>
 
disagree

it is clear that people like ME more than sensible but that is wrong

as 2 of the 3 people he is betting with are using the IMO real calculation

Sensible himself wasn't using the "real" calculation when he offered the bet. It's really that simple. Had he used that definition of goal diff at the time, then I would understand (and agree) that consistency is needed and despite the official definition, I would honour the "implied" terms of the bet. But quite ****ing clearly, his implied terms included the official NHL definition of goal differential.
 
My guess is that ME and Sensible for that matter never gave the terms a lot of consideration at the time of the bet. It was just "goal differential" and neither actual thought "that means actual goals for and against" or "that means NHL tracked goal differential."
 
I ask an honest question. Why would I try to get out of a bet that was tied? When I played the bet I was tied.

The guy has never had any time for the way we "spin" numbers around here. But now that it suits him, Zeke's Math >>>>>>>

Fair enough. Well others were sure you were right even before you knew you were right.

Well 66% of the time zekes math is right in this case.
 
My guess is that ME and Sensible for that matter never gave the terms a lot of consideration at the time of the bet. It was just "goal differential" and neither actual thought "that means actual goals for and against" or "that means NHL tracked goal differential."

Bingo.

And for the record, I was the one who started calculating it the way I understood it, goals for vs goals against. Zeke and Player agreed and ME never objected, until yesterday.
 
Sensible himself wasn't using the "real" calculation when he offered the bet. It's really that simple. Had he used that definition of goal diff at the time, then I would understand (and agree) that consistency is needed and despite the official definition, I would honour the "implied" terms of the bet. But quite ****ing clearly, his implied terms included the official NHL definition of goal differential.

Yes. NOW.

I believe your both on the same page now. Not even sensible is challenging it.

The hate thrown on him is pretty silly. That is all I was saying.
 
Yes. NOW.

I believe your both on the same page now. Not even sensible is challenging it.

The hate thrown on him is pretty silly. That is all I was saying.
To be fair though, that hate has been well earn over the years with all of his trolling.
 
well no...because he has been using the same calculation the whole time

When the official NHL numbers appeared to benefit him, those were the ones he quoted. When the unofficial numbers now benefit him, those are the ones he's quoting.

I'm not drawing inference from that, but I can understand where some people would.
 
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