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I'm getting a tremendous amount of satisfaction out of cork trying to appeal to the Leafs board consensus, as if that's something that he's ever respected here before.

*cough* Anderson's imminent regression *cough*
 
MindzEye said:
Heh. "Rigid Stickler"

You cry about the participation ribbon generation and then chirp like this.
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There is no ribbon giving here - it's two people disagreeing on the definition of goal differential.

Both are "right" in their opinion. One person is holding to the letter of the law and the other is using common sense and previously understood definitions.

In the end my opinion is the bet should be either void, or agreed upon another way.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
I'm getting a tremendous amount of satisfaction out of cork trying to appeal to the Leafs board consensus, as if that's something that he's ever respected here before.

*cough* Anderson's imminent regression *cough*
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We aren't forming a subjective opinion of a player - we're talking about what goal differential means.
 
Corks is so adorable. 50 posts or so on a bet that has nothing to do with him, in support of his little buddy trying to weasel out of a clearly defined bet. Loser. Anybody supporting sensible should be ashamed of themselves given he originally refrenced the official numbers
 
There was nothing subjective of the arguments being put forth by quite literally every single Leafs poster who commented on that topic.

It mattered nothing to you in the end despite seeing dozens of metrics, projections, and statistics being shown.

Now you're trying to use an appeal to consensus as if it has any merit in your eyes. You're being a cafeteria poster here and it's quite frankly bullshit.
 
Holy hell...

a) Come to the same agreement zeke and PTBNL did
b) Agree to the terms Sensible posted earlier today
c) Suggest another alternative
d) Void the bet.

Pretty simple. Hanging your hat on the "omg NHL.com says this" is lame.
 
corksens said:
We aren't forming a subjective opinion of a player - we're talking about what goal differential means.
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But you (and I for that matter) strongly disagree with the general consensus of this board when it comes to "30 or 40 goal scorer."
 
corksens said:
There is no ribbon giving here - it's two people disagreeing on the definition of goal differential.
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Except there wasn't a disagreement when we made the bet.

Both are "right" in their opinion. One person is holding to the letter of the law and the other is using common sense and previously understood definitions.
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When any monetary agreement is made, the original terms are all that matters. If one wants to change the terms and the other doesn't, you always default to the original terms and their held to. Sensible has decided to ignore that, but I didn't really have any questions concerning his character anyway, and it's not like I need the coin.

In the end my opinion is the bet should be either void, or agreed upon another way.
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He's already voided it by stating that he'll refuse to pay if he loses it really.
 
The Green Hornet said:
Corks is so adorable. 50 posts or so on a bet that has nothing to do with him, in support of his little buddy trying to weasel out of a clearly defined bet. Loser. Anybody supporting sensible should be ashamed of themselves given he originally refrenced the official numbers
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Guess you missed where I said I take Mindz over Sensible 10 times out of 10.

No surprise from you though. You miss alot.
 
corksens said:
Holy hell...

a) Come to the same agreement zeke and PTBNL did
b) Agree to the terms Sensible posted earlier today
c) Suggest another alternative
d) Void the bet.

Pretty simple. Hanging your hat on the "omg NHL.com says this" is lame.
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So is trying to be a brown-noser with zeke and player.

Especially given what they say is normally far from universally agreed upon on here. We disagree with them quite literally every single day here. They are not our official spokespeople.
 
corksens said:
Holy hell...

a) Come to the same agreement zeke and PTBNL did
b) Agree to the terms Sensible posted earlier today
c) Suggest another alternative
d) Void the bet.

Pretty simple. Hanging your hat on the "omg NHL.com says this" is lame.
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I love how you have continually danced around the fact that Sensible, at the onset of all of this, used the NHL definition. It's only later that he decided to change it. If he wanted to change the terms of the bet, the onus was on him to approach me with it.
 
Habspatrol said:
And neither did Sensible... I can't say for certain if it was a mere oversight on one or both ends or perhaps it was calculated on one or both sides... but the fact is that there was no clarification from either of them so you absolutely have to go by the wording and it was just "goal differential" which as has been pointed out several times is an NHL tracked statistic. If the wording had been "team +/-" then I'd see an argument... but "goal differential" really does refer to what the NHL tracks. It's not like it's just a natural term that someone is likely to say if they aren't referring to the actual tracked statistic.

It's like saying they'll have a better Corsi but then saying "well I was only referring to shots on net" because who really cares about shots that don't hit the net?
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The NHL does NOT track a STAT called goal differential.

They have a tie breaker in their standings page called "goal differential"

A fine, but important distinction.

If you do go to the official team stats, you will find team totals for both goals for and against, neither of which include shoot out goals for or against.
 
Habspatrol said:
But you (and I for that matter) strongly disagree with the general consensus of this board when it comes to "30 or 40 goal scorer."
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Actually, unless your opinion has changed we previously agreed that a player can only be called an "X goal scorer" if they've actually attained that number.
 
SENSible said:
The NHL does NOT track a STAT called goal differential.

They have a tie breaker in their standings page called "goal differential"

A fine, but important distinction.

If you do go to the official team stats, you will find team totals for both goals for and against, neither of which include shoot out goals for or against.
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If it's good enough to the NHL to determine the playoff fortunes of teams playing at the highest level of professional hockey on Earth it should be good enough for the terms of your bet with Mindz.

Particularly when you were the individual who set out the original parameters and are now in fact trying to change them because they don't suit you.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
So is trying to be a brown-noser with zeke and player.

Especially given what they say is normally far from universally agreed upon on here. We disagree with them quite literally every single day here. They are not our official spokespeople.
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Yes, I just long for zeke and players approval.
 
Listen, at the end of the day, welchers gonna welch and that's the end of it really. All this ****ing about is nothing but aggravation. If you don't like the way I gamble (you know, holding up the original agreement), then don't offer or accept bets from me, it's really that ****ing simple.
 
corksens said:
Yes, I just long for zeke and players approval.
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Then stop using them as some sort of appeal to authority fallacy. Their metrics are not infallible and, more often than not, highly contentious even amongst those of us who post here as Leafs fans.
 
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