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corksens said:
Actually, unless your opinion has changed we previously agreed that a player can only be called an "X goal scorer" if they've actually attained that number.
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I've always said that... but people on this board say that a guy is a 40 goal scorer if he's been on pace for 40 goals for a season.
 
MindzEye said:
Listen, at the end of the day, welchers gonna welch and that's the end of it really. All this ****ing about is nothing but aggravation. If you don't like the way I gamble (you know, holding up the original agreement), then don't offer or accept bets from me, it's really that ****ing simple.
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I don't like the way you gamble - that's why I didn't take the Karlsson bet. You try to set things up like you are the house.

Not my style.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
If it's good enough to the NHL to determine the playoff fortunes of teams playing at the highest level of professional hockey on Earth it should be good enough for the terms of your bet with Mindz.
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I got a good chuckle out of that "but it's the 4th tie breaker". Yes, it's the 4th tie breaker (3rd in essence) that can potentially decide whether or not a multi million dollar franchise full of multi million dollar hockey players can play in the playoffs or not. Clearly the NHL puts no weight in it at all.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Then stop using them as some sort of appeal to authority fallacy. Their metrics are not infallible and, more often than not, highly contentious even amongst those of us who post here as Leafs fans.
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I use them because 4 people are all involved in the same bet and 3 of them are in agreement and 1 is holding out on an NHL.com column.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
If it's good enough to the NHL to determine the playoff fortunes of teams playing at the highest level of professional hockey on Earth it should be good enough for the terms of your bet with Mindz.

Particularly when you were the individual who set out the original parameters and are now in fact trying to change them because they don't suit you.
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It is not a stat.

Go to the official stats page under teams and tell me what you find...both teams at -11.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Then stop using them as some sort of appeal to authority fallacy. Their metrics are not infallible and, more often than not, highly contentious even amongst those of us who post here as Leafs fans.
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Player and Zeke are the other members involved in the bet, idiot.

They aren't being appealed to as the "numbers" guys, but because it proves that there is confusion on Mindz part about the nature of the bet. I'm trying to be generous and let him off the hook, but he's determined to try and lawyer his way to a win.
 
There's no confusion concerning the bet buttercup, your usage of goal diff at the time of the bet is extremely clear.
 
Hell even if he agreed to my suggested resolution he's got the upper hand, as he won't owe me a cent unless the standings tiebreaker says the Sens are ahead (7 point deficit) and only needs the Leafs to outperform the Sens by one goal in terms of the real stat of goal differential to win.
 
MindzEye said:
There's no confusion concerning the bet buttercup, your usage of goal diff at the time of the bet is extremely clear.
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Hey champ, 75% of the people in the bet disagree...

But as I stated earlier, I'm trying to let you off the hook by only having you pay if you lose on your terms...
 
SENSible said:
Player and Zeke are the other members involved in the bet, idiot.

They aren't being appealed to as the "numbers" guys, but because it proves that there is confusion on Mindz part about the nature of the bet. I'm trying to be generous and let him off the hook, but he's determined to try and lawyer his way to a win.
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If you had true confidence in your team, and given the arrogance you expressed earlier in this thread that seems to be in abundance, then you would accept the terms either way.

Instead you're trying to define it on your own terms.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
If you had true confidence in your team, and given the arrogance you expressed earlier in this thread that seems to be in abundance, then you would accept the terms either way.

Instead you're trying to define it on your own terms.
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I've already stated the compromise I'm willing to come to and it is entirely fair considering the other 3 members of the bet see it my way, with only MIndz being confused.

P.S. Are you really stupid enough to think you could get me with the "if you had real confidence" bs? What an idiot.
 
SENSible said:
Hey champ, 75% of the people in the bet disagree...
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Not my concern. Again, I could give a **** what Player & Zeke agree to, it has nothing to do with what we agreed upon.

But as I stated earlier, I'm trying to let you off the hook by only having you pay if you lose on your terms...
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"let you off the hook" by "letting" me alter the terms of a wager I'm currently winning.

That's gold Jerry, gold.
 
SENSible said:
I've already stated the compromise I'm willing to come to and it is entirely fair considering the other 3 members of the bet see it my way, with only MIndz being confused.

P.S. Are you really stupid enough to think you could get me with the "if you had real confidence" bs? What an idiot.
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You're obviously really upset. Otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to insult and clarify otherwise.

#rattled
 
Oh and as Orwell full realized, language is an important means of controlling the discourse, and words have power. So SENSible massages things by changing his welching into "compromising."

Sneaky, sneaky rat.

That type of shit might work on your elementary school students, but it won't work here.
 
Mindz would be just as guilty of welching if he didn't pay off on a goal differential bet based on a tiebreaker column.

I'm trying to create a compromise where neither of us has to pay out unless we lose the bet AS WE UNDERSTOOD IT.
 
He's already said that he will pay up.

You've basically been granted a tremendous, tremendous advantage by him from the outset and still have the gall to complain. Stop being a whiner, you've got a leg up on him already.
 
SENSible said:
Mindz would be just as guilty of welching if he didn't pay off on a goal differential bet based on a tiebreaker column.

I'm trying to create a compromise where neither of us has to pay out unless we lose the bet AS WE UNDERSTOOD IT.
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You understood the bet just fine. Your usage of NHL official goal differential minutes before the bet was offered underlines that fact. You've admitted that you're going to welch if you lose, I've accepted that fact and have moved on.
 
MindzEye said:
You understood the bet just fine. Your usage of NHL official goal differential minutes before the bet was offered underlines that fact. You've admitted that you're going to welch if you lose, I've accepted that fact and have moved on.
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Can you provide us with the Toronto Maple Leafs goal differential team stat?
 
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