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hobarth

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We all know about buying out Cowen but we have new candidates beyond him and Lupul.

Brooks Laich, current cap hit 4.5 mil.

buyout figures:

year 1) 1.833 mil.
year 2) 1.333 mil.

Colin Greening, current cap hit 2.650 mil.

buyout figures:

year 1) .516 mil.
year 2) 1.066 mil.

I'm not sure how many players can be bought out at one time but these 2 might be prime candidates. I get the feeling TO is going to pull another Robidas with Lupul.

I don't think TO is going to be competitive in the next 2 years and buying these players out will leave roster spots open for younger and maybe better players.
 
I could see Greening bought out. Laich and Michalek though I expect will be kept around as veteran bodies for leadership during the first 60 games of next season and then flipped at the deadline.
 
MindzEye said:
Buyout period ends on June 30th. You have to decide on your buyouts before you know who is willing to come to town.
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I'm sure they'll know if they are signing Stamkos or not before that day. I wouldn't even be surprised if we traded for his rights as a gesture of respect(wrong word?). A 6th or 7th rounder in 2020? LOL.

F*ck it. If we know he's signing here we should send them a fruit basket and nothing else.
 
I hear there's an elite player who might become available this summer and buying those 2 out would free up about 4.3 mil. per season.
 
Leafin' said:
I'm sure they'll know if they are signing Stamkos or not before that day. I wouldn't even be surprised if we traded for his rights as a gesture of respect(wrong word?). A 6th or 7th rounder in 2020? LOL.

F*ck it. If we know he's signing here we should send them a fruit basket and nothing else.
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Also possible. With that said, the cap hit on those guys isn't going to be the difference in having Stamkos money and not having Stamkos money.

There's some other cap space clearing possibilities to consider:

Greening to the AHL instead of a buyout: Would save ~900K in cap space, and would only cause us to retain 1M in cap space more next season than his buyout would. Probably makes more sense than buying him out

Trading Robidas: Due 1M in cash next year, with a 3M cap hit. For a team like Carolina who might struggle to make the floor, if we retain 1M in salary, we pay him for them to have 2M in free cap space to hit the floor with

That would clear ~2.9M in projected 2016/17 cap hit. With Horton's 5.3M LTIR'd, add that to the impact of the Cowen buyout and that's shaving 11M off of our current 54M projection for next season. Tons of money to work with for our 16/17 purposes.
 
What a difference a year and change makes. We looked like a complete disaster not so long ago. Beyond the results of the NHL product at the moment things are looking way up for the Leafs. Add in this offseason, which is a crucial one, and we are in a good place a lot faster than i would've imagined. The pain of watching this year is mostly bearable by the fact that i know our prospects are looking damn good.
 
Yeah, I was expecting it to take 2-4 years to unwind all the shitty management Nonis left us with. It's almost all gone within 12 months of his punting.

One more year of pain (that might not even be that painful) and we've got a mostly clean slate and a bevy of talented kids rolling into the NHL roster.
 
MindzEye said:
Yeah, I was expecting it to take 2-4 years to unwind all the shitty management Nonis left us with. It's almost all gone within 12 months of his punting.

One more year of pain (that might not even be that painful) and we've got a mostly clean slate and a bevy of talented kids rolling into the NHL roster.
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with like 25 picks over the next two years...

they've gotten out of everything that they can get out of, other than bozak and jvr who have both made a case for being kept around in any event.
 
I wouldn't buy out anyone other than maybe Cowen. We're not going to need the cap space next year, and most of the bad deals, save Lupul, expire at the end of the season anyways. And it's not like we're going to be contending for much.

It is impressive how effectively they cleared the decks of the old rubbish though. Phaneuf, Clarkson, Kessel all gone, with a bunch of dead money next year and $1.2 m retained on Kessel annually all that we had to swallow.
 
At this point i'd wait and see on Lupul. He's really got no where to go but up at this point. If there is anything to this "sports hernia" then maybe we see a healthy Lupul to start the year next year. With an infusion of talent we might even see a motivated Lupul. Hell, Kadri looked energized last night playing with some new talent.

I'm not holding my breathe though.
 
I expect Kadri to be traded mostly because of the tire pumping. I don't think Babs felt compelled to pump Datsyuk's and Zetterberg's tires and that was probably because people were aware of how good they were/are. Is a 5 mil. $ Kadri a good investment, maybe on another show me contract for 1 year.
 
hobarth said:
I expect Kadri to be traded mostly because of the tire pumping. I don't think Babs felt compelled to pump Datsyuk's and Zetterberg's tires and that was probably because people were aware of how good they were/are. Is a 5 mil. $ Kadri a good investment, maybe on another show me contract for 1 year.
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Unless you're getting blown away by an offer I don't see the sense in trading him. Here's still young enough to be part of our future and our second best nhl'r after Reilly. I don't think Babcock is pumping tires, just telling the truth.

Also Kadri had been the target of a lot of unfair criticism in this market and maybe he wanted to set things straight.
 
Aberdeen said:
Unless you're getting blown away by an offer I don't see the sense in trading him. Here's still young enough to be part of our future and our second best nhl'r after Reilly. I don't think Babcock is pumping tires, just telling the truth.

Also Kadri had been the target of a lot of unfair criticism in this market and maybe he wanted to set things straight.
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So you're saying a 5 million $ Kadri is a good option, I can't think of another 5 mil. $ player who scores in the mid 40's with 1st line minutes that Leaf fans could get excited about.
 
Calling kadri a 40 pt player is about as accurate as calling him a PPG player. In this era of the NHL a 50-55pt centre with "Grease" is a 5mil player easily, especially when that player is 25 and has been playing with the Grabners of the world.
 
hobarth said:
So you're saying a 5 million $ Kadri is a good option, I can't think of another 5 mil. $ player who scores in the mid 40's with 1st line minutes that Leaf fans could get excited about.
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You can't find a 45-55 point centre who is a major possession driver (53.8 CF%) for less than that amount of money.

Then of course, you need to take a step back and realize that he's 25 and has shown significantly higher than 45-55 point potential in his career and for better or for worse has only semi recently started taking his career seriously.
 
MindzEye said:
Buyout period ends on June 30th. You have to decide on your buyouts before you know who is willing to come to town.
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With the five day period prior to July 1st that you can contact free agents now.. you'll know before June 30th.

At least internally.
 
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