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GeneralT001 said:
Because we have to get from point A to point B. Israel will need the USofA's help. We all may need the USofA's help before too long. Do you ever wonder what the world would be if the US did not exist but rather we had just Russia and China as the dominant world powers?

Not "in" 2030 but rather "by" 2030.
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Who cares?

The prophecy says 2030. Nothing we do or don't do can stop it.
 
Or maybe you mean that if we all vote against the likes of Trump, then we can prevent the apocalypse?

Sounds like a good plan.
 
So that would mean you are actively voting FOR the apocalypse, because you hate your life so much that you'll gamble it all on (your race-specific) heaven legend being real instead.
 
zeke said:
Who cares?

The prophecy says 2030. Nothing we do or don't do can stop it.
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There is no prophecy that says "2030". We can only speculate based on whats occurring around us. Given the events over the past 100+ yrs (increase in knowledge) and the last few decades we do seem to be fulfilling prophecy at an increasing pace. I do tend to think (and I am not alone) that we are very close to The Messiah revealing himself between now and, at the latest, (fingers crossed) 2030. What happens in the next 2 years should be very telling and indicative of just how close we are.
 
GeneralT001 said:
There is no prophecy that says "2030". We can only speculate based on whats occurring around us. Given the events over the past 100+ yrs (increase in knowledge) and the last few decades we do seem to be fulfilling prophecy at an increasing pace. I do tend to think (and I am not alone) that we are very close to The Messiah revealing himself between now and, at the latest, (fingers crossed) 2030. What happens in the next 2 years should be very telling and indicative of just how close we are.
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Ah so you completely made it up. Cool.

(We knews this already btw)
 
zeke said:
Ah so you completely made it up. Cool.

(We knews this already btw)
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Well, there is material out there that does pick 2030 based on a lot of things (check it out). But God has not revealed the exact time only the signs leading up to it. So, no, its not made up and you are missing out on the interesting times.
 
GeneralT001 said:
Well, there is material out there that does pick 2030 based on a lot of things (check it out). But God has not revealed the exact time only the signs leading up to it. So, no, its not made up and you are missing out on the interesting times.
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Oh there is material out there, eh?
 
zeke said:
That's when he takes away your Free Will and promises not to create any more satans so that y'all will be able to live without sin in eternal bliss, right?
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I assume your joking or your just don't know? Freewill isn't going anywhere. There is only one Satan and he does Gods bidding, until the fairy tales concocted by the Church. Sin will still be around, but there will be a world wide knowledge and acknowledgment of God. Oddly enough, the sacrificial system will also be reinstituted on The Temple mount. What does that say about Jesus's sacrifice?
 
GeneralT001 said:
I assume your joking or your just don't know? Freewill isn't going anywhere. There is only one Satan and he does Gods bidding, until the fairy tales concocted by the Church. Sin will still be around, but there will be a world wide knowledge and acknowledgment of God. Oddly enough, the sacrificial system will also be reinstituted on The Temple mount. What does that say about Jesus's sacrifice?
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wait - sin will still be around everywhere?

then what is the point of the apocalypse exactly?
 
zeke said:
wait - sin will still be around everywhere?

then what is the point of the apocalypse exactly?
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The "apocalypse" or "Armageddon" is a difficult one. The Christian claim of a world wide cataclysmic war that would destroy all of mankind (I'm sorry "peoplekind"), unless Jesus intervened, is not supported in The Tanach (OT). From my limited knowledge on the subject there is supposed to be a final battle in Israel (Gog and Magog) but no one is totally sure who this represents. The common view is that it will be an alliance of the Arab nations along with, most likely, Russia/China. They are totally destroyed by Israel (God). This is all to usher in the "Millennium" a thousand years of "peace" where all will know The true God and there will only be the one "religion" which will be Judaism, probably in a slightly different form from what it is right now. The Messiah will be here at this time. For the most part intentional sin will be no more, but unintentional sin will still be present.
 
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