GDT: Canes @ Rangers 5/7 7:00
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I mean, obviously this ... right? It's not like they've gotten their brains bashed in up in New York or anything. They lost two one goal games. You come home, make adjustments, hold serve and move on. If not, THEN you start thinking about the panic button.
You know, if there's one toxic trait we could take from the traditional market fan bases, I really wish this fan base had more blind faith in their team. Two years ago the Rangers headed back to NY down 0-2 to the Canes and their fans were a lot more "we'll kick your asses in the Garden and see you for game 5" than talking about off season stuff.
CanadaCanes
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Totally disagree on that last line, I remember fondly the NY Rangers fans online after the first two games of that series, they were all over Shesterkin and the coaching staff among others after being down 2 games in that series.
Here is the problem with the power play.
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TheBigKahuna
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I haven't seen much to get my hopes up. Geuntzel has been good, Aho too unless we're counting FO wins. Slavin has been terrible. The 4th line is utterly useless. KokeCan is as useless as ever, and sadly, Stall has probably had as many good looks at the net as anyone, but he can't score. I'd start Pyotor in goal.
Any word on why Kunetzov isn't playing?
Any word on why Kunetzov isn't playing?
bagopux
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Remember: you’re never in trouble until you lose at home or lose game 7. Losing in 2OT was tough to swallow. We don’t know what will come next. We were down 2-0 to the Caps coming home. Turned out OK. The Canes are pretty formidable at home. We lost two games on the road that came down to or past the wire. Home ice could easily change that. Yes, maybe the cries for massive off season changes will be necessary. But not yet.
HurryCanes
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Lots of hockey to play but I do find that Kuzy decision as interesting. KK could be more physical but the guy just isn’t getting it done.
He hasn’t been good, but not bad enough to be replaced by Max freaking Comtois‘s 6 minutes of fame. Essentially having him active reduced KK and Noesen’s time to almost nothing when RBA shortened the bench. Noesen played 2 shifts after going Wout with Comtois for their one and only shift in the 3rd and thst was on the power plays in the overtimes. KK played 4 shifts after that, 1 in the 3rd, 2 in OT1 and 1 in OT2.
We encountered different species of the beast, then. Still, a bit of confidence wouldn't kill this fan base. We project as very whiny online.
Comtois didn't play poorly, I thought. Neither did Noesen. I thought Brindy made a mistake not forcing Laviolette to make a decision to either risk Rempe's nonsense with the game on the line or double shifting.
TheBigKahuna
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The Canes are not a 3 line team. Not sure what's happening on that 4th line but it's a waste of space on the playoff bus.
Well duh? I mean yes but the problem is they’re not scoring. Not generating chances, however you want to measure it. The question isn’t what is the problem. It should be why is the problem?
It’s the same every time the PP goes through a down cycle. Too much perimeter passing, not enough shooting. In the 2nd OT, there was 1 shot on the PP and it was from Aho from the high slot, with no traffic in front, right into Shesterkin’s midsection. Apparently, the deflections on the first 2 goals didn’t register with the team as a way to beat Shesterkin.
The Canes have two basic go-to shot creation opportunities on their PP, with a perimeter shot always an option as a bailout. The first one, which pretty much everyone takes way, is the cross seam pass to the right wing for a one timer. That's generally to Svech or Turbo but once you hit about the All Star game and everybody has an accurate scout, that only works on broken plays or when a killing team does something stupid. The other mainstay is the triangle play between the high wing (Aho or Necas), the low pivot (Jarvis or Noesen) and the high pivot (Guentzel or Drury/Koozie). NY is doing a great job of positioning and playing soft pressure to take away the cross seamer while still keeping three guys (2.5, really) available in the triangle on the left.
IMO where Carolina is failing is where they have always failed on the power play in the playoffs ... they aren't getting enough from the guy at the point. Burns, DeAngelo, Skjei ... doesn't matter. They HAVE to be more decisive and aggresive up top. NY is suckering them into playing around with the triangle set but never really breaking down to open up a decent angle. And when the forwards have tried to break that pressure with the cross seam pass, the weak side D has been great at reading the play. They need a can opener from the point to break up the kill, either by being more aggressive in getting shot angles, or by breaking the set up with sharp passes and movement. If the point can force a forward into something other than a soft shooting lane block, then Carolina can start busting loose some seams.
THIS is where the current coaching staff keeps hitting the same rocks every year with different personnel. And when people scream about taking care of Brindy and his staff I'm always asking myself ... what about a new set of ideas for the power play that just keeps failing you in the playoffs? I'm not singling out Jeff Daniels here, but ... yeah, I kind of am doing that.
Christer
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This is what we have been saying for years now. Of course the coaching staff is mostly responsible for the failure in special teams every year during the play offs. This should have been adressed long ago.
One other thing that always makes it harder for the team is the fact that the Canes best forwards are all tiny in comparison to their opponents.
The differences in power play conversion were pretty insignificant, 28% in 48 games to the All Star Game, 25% in the 34 games after. And that was due to a lull in February, 20.8% for the month, but back up to 26.6% from March 1 through the end of the season. So what’s the difference? Every game is against one of the best PK units in the league. The Canes were 5/15 against the Isles but they had the worst Pk in the league.
The difference maybe. In the playoffs they allow a lot more physical play they would result in penalties to go uncalled. Making it easy for bigger players to exclude smaller players from the high danger areas by fouling them. In turn, those smaller players need to take much more obvious action to defend their position.
Case in point. On one play Burns literally crushed a rangers player in front with a subtle shoulder shot. Not possible for Guentzel to do that without an obvious effort/intent.
Also the attrition of shots to the head of guys like Jarvis ding them up to the point they’re trying to stay in the game and can’t take more of those hits.
Trouba should be suspended for the balance of the playoffs. He charged, left his feet raised his elbow and then when he was Necas avoided him, he tried to drop that elbow into his head. That is a total POS play. Trouba is dirty, is a cheater, shows extremely poor sportsmanship. He is a poster child for what’s wrong with the league.
When Shane Willis is suing the NHL for trauma induced early onset brain issues, he can show that video and point out that not only did they allow that kind of garbage when he was playing and they maybe didn’t know, even with everything they know now, that kind of criminal assault is not only allowed but encouraged.
Case in point. On one play Burns literally crushed a rangers player in front with a subtle shoulder shot. Not possible for Guentzel to do that without an obvious effort/intent.
Also the attrition of shots to the head of guys like Jarvis ding them up to the point they’re trying to stay in the game and can’t take more of those hits.
Trouba should be suspended for the balance of the playoffs. He charged, left his feet raised his elbow and then when he was Necas avoided him, he tried to drop that elbow into his head. That is a total POS play. Trouba is dirty, is a cheater, shows extremely poor sportsmanship. He is a poster child for what’s wrong with the league.
When Shane Willis is suing the NHL for trauma induced early onset brain issues, he can show that video and point out that not only did they allow that kind of garbage when he was playing and they maybe didn’t know, even with everything they know now, that kind of criminal assault is not only allowed but encouraged.
Pucking Lamplighter
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What need to happen is; allow Trouba a couple free shots on Gary Bettman, so he understands what "Letting them play" gets you. The skill of the game is being robbed by B.S..
Jim
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