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GDT | Game 15 | vs The Evil Empire | Saturday, November 9th | 7:00 PM EST

last night, the Leafs were playing a back to back, without Matthews, with 11 forwards, with their second string goalie....and all we had was Gallagher and Hutson going
Yeah, it’s also on the so-called leaders of the team to step up.
 
We’re exactly where the Blues were six years ago around this time. Just saying.
Yes but the Blues navigated the ship without a tear down

Competitive for a near decade , won the cup and sold off vets while drafting and developing talent

Fuckhead Nero never sold our key vets for a haul except Max and that netted us our best forward

Tear downs are not linear as we are seeing now
 
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Because many people, including some here, grossly overrated the players on this team and really thought they might have a chance to push for the playoffs. That's why people like Arpon are starting to lash out.

It also doesn't help that the top of this franchise sold a false bill of goods when they said that they wanted to be "in the mix".

Don't lie to us. The team's bad and minimal effort was done to improve it. Just own it and be honest.
 
For me it's a double edged sword. We need more talent in the pipeline. We have much more than 2 years ago but need even more so you might as well let them finish dead last. They're not challenging for anything (sorry Sal) and bringing in a new coach now won't do any good for the ultimate goal. Finishing bottom ten as opposed to bottom five means less chance at real talent.

I bitch about Marty because he's beyond his depth, HuGo never put the man in a position to win. Never gave him a seasoned mentor as associate coach to learn from, especially on how to pull up out of a nose dive, never gave him a good defensive coach (haven't really had one since Laperriere) and just gave him the reins and said have fun.

I don't blame Marty, I like the guy, I blame HuGo. It's because of this that I think it was part of the plan. Marty was the distraction while they tore it down. The problem with distractions is that they eventually wear off and now we have a train wreck to watch as the distraction instead.

Keep Marty until the summer but for the sake of the players and franchise, get a real coach next summer. I think Pascal Vincent will be that guy.
 
For me it's a double edged sword. We need more talent in the pipeline. We have much more than 2 years ago but need even more so you might as well let them finish dead last. They're not challenging for anything (sorry Sal) and bringing in a new coach now won't do any good for the ultimate goal. Finishing bottom ten as opposed to bottom five means less chance at real talent.

I bitch about Marty because he's beyond his depth, HuGo never put the man in a position to win. Never gave him a seasoned mentor as associate coach to learn from, especially on how to pull up out of a nose dive, never gave him a good defensive coach (haven't really had one since Laperriere) and just gave him the reins and said have fun.

I don't blame Marty, I like the guy, I blame HuGo. It's because of this that I think it was part of the plan. Marty was the distraction while they tore it down. The problem with distractions is that the eventually wear off and now we have a train wreck to watch as the distraction instead.

Keep Marty until the summer but for the sake of the players and franchise, get a real coach next summer. I think Pascal Vincent will be that guy.

The concern is that Suzuki and Caufield lose interest . . .
 
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