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Habsy said:
No way you can say that with any certainty.
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Of course not, it's an inference. A good one, but only an inference.

Price was not stellar either, he's played far better than he did last night.
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I don't think that it's unfair to say that Price was a lot closer to his top form last night, than Reimer was to his.

Saying the loss was strictly on Reimer is disingenuous.
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1 of the goals was very stoppable, the other 2 were laughable. The Leafs controlled pace, possession, etc. The Leafs were the better group of skaters last night.
 
reimer was shit last night.

even on the tipped goal, he was never square to the puck and was too deep in his net
 
Habsy said:
No way you can say that with any certainty.

Price was not stellar either, he's played far better than he did last night.

Saying the loss was strictly on Reimer is disingenuous.
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You were saying the exact same things when your starting goaltender went down and Budaj wasn't performing well enough.
 
Habsy said:
No way you can say that with any certainty.

Price was not stellar either, he's played far better than he did last night.

Saying the loss was strictly on Reimer is disingenuous.
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Agreed. While Reimer could have been WAY better, so could softy Kessel on the first goal and Gardiner-whoever on the 2nd.
 
if reimer makes those easy saves nobody remembers the small mistakes that led to montreal getting shots on goal.

those were stoppable goals. mistakes happen throughout the game. your goalie has to bail you out from those -- especially when they don't result in particularly good scoring chacnes against.

this is thes ame problem you guys had when budaj was in net for price. he started letting in bad goals, and you guys started losing games.
 
true, your goalie is there to bail out mistakes up front. I do think, however, that turnovers at your blue line can be tough to react to.
 
in any event, if the leafs getting peppered, giving up 40 shots a game and reimer let in a few iffy goals over the past few games i wouldn't have an issue with him.

but the leafs have actually tightened up a bit, aren't relying on the rope-a-dope like they ewre earlier in the season, and reimer is letting up 2-3 soft goals a GAME.
 
The sad thing is Reimer is hurting himself here, teams are watching how he's playing currently, basically he's playing for a spot for another team next year at this point and instead of proving he can be a legit #1 goalie he's playing like he's not even worthy of being a backup, he's screwing his own fate here.
 
mbow30 said:
in any event, if the leafs getting peppered, giving up 40 shots a game and reimer let in a few iffy goals over the past few games i wouldn't have an issue with him.

but the leafs have actually tightened up a bit, aren't relying on the rope-a-dope like they ewre earlier in the season, and reimer is letting up 2-3 soft goals a GAME.
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Leafs out Corsi%'d the Devils (an elite Corsi team) again tonight. The Leafs tightened up significantly in front of Reimer over the past 5 games and Reimer still flopped.
 
MindzEye said:
Leafs out Corsi%'d the Devils (an elite Corsi team) again tonight. The Leafs tightened up significantly in front of Reimer over the past 5 games and Reimer still flopped.
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What does that say about Corsi, since the Devils are not elite in important categories like wins, goals scored and goal differential...and slightly above average in goals allowed.
 
CH1 said:
What does that say about Corsi, since the Devils are not elite in important categories like wins, goals scored and goal differential...and slightly above average in goals allowed.
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well we know this already. have been going on about it all year, in case you hadn't noticed.
 
CH1 said:
What does that say about Corsi, since the Devils are not elite in important categories like wins, goals scored and goal differential...and slightly above average in goals allowed.
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What does it say about Corsi? That a team tremendously lacking in talent, truly belonging with the bottom 5 clubs in the league on that front, can remain competitive by controlling possession. What does it say about the Devils that they're this good at controlling possession and this bad a team? Stunning lack of talent.
 
I don't think it's a coincidence that the majority of the elite teams in the league are among the elite Corsi teams in the league and the 2 elite teams in the league that isn't among the elite Corsi teams both have elite talent. Pittsburgh and Anaheim are middle of the road possession teams, but both have more elite talent than most other teams.
 
Cool. I was honestly just asking.

The thing is you just need to watch a handful of NJ games to draw the same conclusion that Corsi delivers.
 
CH1 said:
Cool. I was honestly just asking.

The thing is you just need to watch a handful of NJ games to draw the same conclusion that Corsi delivers.
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Devils are about as extreme an example in that direction as the Leafs are in theirs. When healthy (man we miss Bernier, or the Ghost of Reimer's past), the Leafs show that they're a lot more than their possession suggests they are. The Devils are a lot better than their talent suggests they are. Both are pretty interesting case studies in this broader metrics argument.
 
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