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Not sure I could possibly think of a more overrated trio of "star forwards" than Nash, Gabby, and Richards, even if their paid as if they're not overrated.

trading all their depth for a 70pt forward might not have been the best move in the world.
 
The Leafs could always eat some of Liles' money as well.

Does anyone know if you have to spread the cap hit evenly over it's full length when you're eating money in a deal, or if you can eat the first year of the deal and not the other years?
 
zeke said:
Not sure I could possibly think of a more overrated trio of "star forwards" than Nash, Gabby, and Richards, even if their paid as if they're not overrated.

trading all their depth for a 70pt forward might not have been the best move in the world.
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Its not like their dept really scored goals for them either.
 
MindzEye said:
Yeah...I'd be happy just to move the contract. That leaves us with the amnesty to get rid of Komi this year, and the possibility of saving the 2nd one should Grabovski look like this again next year.
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Regarding the 2nd amnesty buyout: is it not a "use it or lose it" proposition for it this summer?
 
hairnova said:
Nope, you can use them this summer or next.
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Yep...what this guy said. This summer or next summer. So we can run Grabo out there again next year...

Though I'd probably amnesty him if Ribeiro is hitting free agency. You'll get Ribeiro ( a better player ) for less money and shorter term this summer with the cap dropping.
 
zeke said:
Not sure I could possibly think of a more overrated trio of "star forwards" than Nash, Gabby, and Richards, even if their paid as if they're not overrated.

trading all their depth for a 70pt forward might not have been the best move in the world.
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think you're selling gabby a bit short.

that brutal 10-11 seasons aside he's been one of the few guys to consistently hit a ppg since hte lockout. in fact, he has played at at least a 40 goal pace in every single season since 05-06 but for 10-11.

tough to call him overrated.
 
Talking about Richards here?

yeah tough to call him overrated.

In fact, I specifically remember 2 or 3 summers ago zeke said "Richards or bust"
 
Richards is a pretty interesting case. He’s put up some strong point totals, well above a point-per-game (in the 90 point range). But also several seasons decently below (in the 65 point range.)

I think it really depends on his linemates. In his huge seasons, he had guys like St. Louis, Eriksson, Neal, and Benn on his wings. And Gaborik and Nash are no slouches. But maybe having those big wingers who can open up some room for him makes a huge difference. Plus Martin St. Louis is awesome. Nash, on the other hand, has never really made anybody better (though small sample size and all).

Richards would have made us better in the short-term. But is he a good enough center that the Leafs would have been a contender with him instead of with Bozak? It’s an upgrade. But he’d be occupying that spot forever, plus $6+ million in cap, and he’s in his declining years.

I’m happier having all these young players and assets, lots of cap-room and opportunity in the lineup in the near future.
 
Richards is a good player, but he was never a great one. And he is 33.

His career trajectory isn't all that different from other guys like him, for example Turgeon and Damphouse. Only the elite players really have that extended prime. Richards is past his.
 
Lebrun:

The clock continues to move toward the April 3 trade deadline without contract extensions for Ducks stars Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry -- both eligible to be unrestricted free agents in July.

Credit both players and their teammates, because it certainly hasn’t been a distraction for the high-flying Ducks.

My understanding is that the Ducks will have more contract talks with the camps for each player sometime over the next seven to 10 days.

It’s going to be awfully interesting to see how the Ducks play it as April 3 approaches if those two stars still haven’t re-signed. Just my own gut feeling: I think a Getzlaf extension will get done, but I’m not sure about Perry at this point.

On the one hand, you figure there’s no way you can afford to trade Perry, given that the Ducks are challenging for first overall in the NHL standings.

On the other hand, every GM in the league watched as Nashville kept Ryan Suter past the trade deadline last season, as did New Jersey with Zach Parise. Then the GM saw both players walk out the door July 1, getting nothing in return.

This is just me guessing, but there’s a real chance the Ducks contemplate trading Perry if he’s not signed by April 3, no matter their position in the standings. Again, no one has told me that; it's just me reading the tea leaves, especially when you consider how sour the Ducks were after losing Justin Schultz to free agency last summer.

Finally, some people are wondering about Jonas Hiller’s future in Anaheim given the emergence of Viktor Fasth. I don’t believe there’s any chance Anaheim would move Hiller this season, not with the small yet impressive body of NHL work it has gotten from Fasth. Hiller at least finishes the year in Anaheim.
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We’re still waiting for that flurry of trade activity. It was hard to know what to expect with a 48-game season and a new collective bargaining agreement, but it’s been awfully quiet in terms of significant moves.

"Nobody wants to take any significant money back," said one Eastern Conference GM on Monday.

"The question I’m asking myself is why would I take on a player with three more years on his deal at $3 million or $4 million a year and then have that contract limit what I can do this summer?" a Western Conference GM told ESPN.com.

Don’t forget that the NHL salary cap is going to $64.3 million per team next season, down from $70.2 million this season.

I still think it’s going to be a busy April 3 trade deadline, but there could be even more activity in the offseason. Some clubs will wait until then to make their biggest moves.

Still, one team executive said Monday there’s too much pressure on some teams not to finally ante up soon.

"Doing nothing is not an option for some people if they want to keep their job," he said.

One Western Conference team executive predicted two more weeks before it heats up.

"By mid-March I bet you we’ll be humming," he said.

In the meantime, everyone is waiting to see if/when Colorado moves Ryan O’Reilly. Teams have inquired -- the likes of Ottawa, Toronto, Philadelphia and the Rangers, among other clubs -- but have been put off by the high asking price.

"I just think they don’t really want to move him unless it’s a home-run offer," said one Eastern Conference GM. "That’s their prerogative, really."

Another name to watch before April 3 is Jarome Iginla. We don’t know if he would be willing to waive his no-trade clause for a trade, but if he is, and if the Flames are finally willing to move him, one team to keep an eye on is Pittsburgh. I believe the Penguins have interest in Iginla, who found success with Sidney Crosby on Team Canada at the 2010 Olympics. The Penguins have also had success in the past with aging wingers Bill Guerin and Gary Roberts, two players who found new life in their legs after arriving in Pittsburgh. Iginla would be a nice fit there.
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Interesting read by ESPN The Magazine colleague Craig Custance on Monday wondering if it’s Cory Schneider, not Roberto Luongo, who moves out of Vancouver.

One thing’s for sure: Because he’s younger and with an easier contract to swallow, you can bet there’s a better chance of Vancouver getting a sizable offer for Schneider before April 3 as opposed to Luongo.

But for the Canucks to even consider reversing course and moving the kid instead of the veteran, as was the plan, they would need assurances from Luongo that he no longer wants out. Remember, Luongo asked for a trade at the end of last season.

My guess? Luongo hasn’t changed his mind.

I don’t think Schneider is going anywhere.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/22337/rumblings-ducks-canucks-and-bad-ref-luck
 
Good find ... thanks.

Is "body of work" the new hip term to use in the NHL circle??

Bobby Mac said it at least 3 times during the same intermission session.
 
In the meantime, everyone is waiting to see if/when Colorado moves Ryan O’Reilly. Teams have inquired -- the likes of Ottawa, Toronto, Philadelphia and the Rangers, among other clubs -- but have been put off by the high asking price.

"I just think they don’t really want to move him unless it’s a home-run offer," said one Eastern Conference GM. "That’s their prerogative, really."
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well, if he's not hurting other teams and he's not helping the Avs while sitting out, I'm not sure what kind of home run offer they're going to get for a player who stands a good chance of ending up overpaid.
 
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