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Leaf Rumours

I actually heard Dreger talking about that idea before the Leafs/Habs game. All the same details: Blues are heavily scouting Toronto, may be interested in Kuly, may be offering up Schwartz. So, if that rumour originated with Dreger, I'm not sure how much stock I'd put in it.

For the sake of discussion though, I wouldn't be interested in trading Kulemin for futures. And maybe some of our prospect people can step up here, but Jaden Schwartz's numbers and size don't exactly leave me desperate to acquire him.

If they're offering up Chris Stewart on the other hand...

(18 yo) 2010-2011 Colorado College WCHA 30GP 17G 47PTS (82GP 46G 128PTS)
(19 yo) 2011-2012 Colorado College WCHA 30GP 15G 41PTS (82GP 41G 112PTS)

Schwartz had more points as an 18 year old freshman in the WCHA than Frattin had at 22 (his Hobey Baker year).
 
We need to have enough size on top lines to get things done in the playoffs so Schwartz doesn't interest me much but id love to have Stewart on this team. Exactly what we need more of imo.
 
I think everyone knows my thoughts on this.

and I think you know how much we care. We're at the point with Kulemin that he's becoming expensive for the production he provides.


9 goals in his last 92 games despite a ton of ice and opportunity. If we can get Schwartz for him, that's damn fine asset management.
 
Schwartz is a midget and his ahl numbers weren't all that impressive this year.

I don't like trading a 2nd/3rd liner for a player you hope becomes a good 2nd/3rd liner unless it's for cap reasons.
 
and I think you know how much we care. We're at the point with Kulemin that he's becoming expensive for the production he provides.


9 goals in his last 92 games despite a ton of ice and opportunity. If we can get Schwartz for him, that's damn fine asset management.

Kulemin brings so much more than just goals. And if Grabs ever gets back to playing like he used to, Kuly will bring the goals too.
 
IMO Schwartz has a nice ceiling as a solid 2d line C

St Louis needs scoring though, not a defensive forward like Kulemin..

Frankly MaCarthur seems to be a better fit for them
 
Kulemin brings so much more than just goals. And if Grabs ever gets back to playing like he used to, Kuly will bring the goals too.

Listen, I like the guy. He's a big body along the boards, strong on the forecheck, nicely defensively. But if he's not putting pucks in the net with 2nd line minutes, with 2nd line calibre players around him, he's not something you hang onto if you can add a high skill piece.
 
I don't agree with you often LoF but yeah i think Grabo ruins a lot of plays for those guys. Someone less selfish and with better vision would get Kuly more goals for sure.
 
I could understand it if we're doing it for cap reasons, ie to free up space for a followup move. Kulemin doesn't look like he'll ever be the 30 goal Kulemin again, and while still a useful player maybe costs a bit too much for what he brings with the lack of production lately.

Or if Kulemin and Schwartz are only two of the names in a larger deal...the Blues have issues with faceoffs and like most teams need another reliable dman.
 
Oh, I've got no time for Grabovski...thought the contract was a mistake and think his play since has verified that. But I don't blame Grabovski for Kulemin not getting into goal scoring areas with the puck. We're not talking about Kule going from 30 down to 15-16 goalslike we saw during his first 2 years in the league...but down to single digits, that's not Grabovski.
 
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