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Ya I don't see that trade as a "landslide" win. Personally I think we'd regret trading away Kadri big time.

*edit* I do see it as a 'win' but I think landslide is overstating it. Kadri's killer leanings just has so much appeal to me.
 
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teeds said:
Not that I overvaluate him, because I don't. But I DO NOT want to give up Kadri. And neither does Burke. WHY? Because he will sell tickets. Ryan won't.

I need to be entertained, during the arduous regular season, as I would hope, most would. Having Kadri and Kaberle would do that for me.

DO NOT trade Kaberle. This Phaneuf guy just looks and acts a little too kooky to rely on him bringing up the puck consistently.

And if you want to see HOW terrible Komisarek and Schitt are, trade Kabs. Don't say I didn't tell ya.

And Berezin everyone.
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As if the Leafs need help selling tickets, and as if Burke cares how many tickets they sell. He'd trade Kadri for Ryan in a nanosecond.
 
I hardly think Kadri is untouchable. I'm not doubting that he'll be a good player and maybe even a star... but he's not in the elite category IMO.

I think the deal Pronger84 proposed seems quite fair and I think the Leafs make out quite well, but I really don't see it happening. If Kaberle was signed for 3 more years then I may think differently.
 
Brian Burke going to be on Leafs lunch today. I can't think of anything left he can say (that isn't tampering) - still going to try to listen mind you.
 
Metalleaf said:
If Burke makes a trade for a top 6 forward, he'll do his best to get one done without including Kadri whatsoever.
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Of course. I highly doubt they'll trade Kadri. They will definitely be able to get a top 6 forward for Kaberle. However, if they want a big forward that just turned 23 and has 2 30+ goal seasons in his first two years and was drafted 2nd overall to Crosby then they may have to put Kadri on the block.

IMO Ryan is like Kessel with more size and physicality and a bit higher offensive potential. He's more of a puck possession guy with a great shot.

Could you imagine having Kessel and Ryan on the top line? Get a good center and you definitely have one of the most dangerous lines in the league. Maybe they pull off that trade and sign Marleau... that would be a scary line.... for a long time.
 
Ryan isn't good enough to give up Kaberle and Kadri.

If Burke wouldn't give up Kaberle and #7 for Kessel, he isn't doing it for Ryan.
 
leafman101 said:
Ryan isn't good enough to give up Kaberle and Kadri.

If Burke wouldn't give up Kaberle and #7 for Kessel, he isn't doing it for Ryan.
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Kaberle with 2 years left on his deal >>> Kaberle with 1 year left on his deal and coming off a very poor year considering his amazing start.

Ryan coming off his 2nd 30+ goal year > Kessel coming off his first very good 30+ goal year and shoulder surgery.
 
Not really. Your overstating the contract thing. In the summer thats not an issue. Just see Pronger last year.

As for Ryan. Maybe if he improved on his numbers. But he didn't. Most people didn't question Ryan and Kessel's stats after one year.
 
Nothing new with Burke on Leaf's lunch. In my mind the two main points were:

1) Plenty of interest in Karberle - both eastern and western conference teams.

2) Kulemin talks are not moving at all, in fact they haven't talked in 2 weeks. He sounded pretty negative on that front and continues to explain why Kulemin isn't worth that much. To me it sounds like he preparing the public to lose him, but who knows.
 
Well then, unless Kulemin's camp makes some significant movement, I'm thinking it's more and more likely that we'll be seeing Kulemin on his way out of town along with Kaberle. It's a shame, because Kulemin's got some serious size and strength that he was just getting the hang of using by the end of the season, and that's something we're pretty short on up front. But on the upside, if Burke packaged Kulemin and Kaberle together, that'd be a pretty significant trade package.
 
strickland wrote an article that the Devils are high on getting Kaberle to let Paul Martin go...

but then some guy posted this underneath that he said he got somewhere else, but didn't credit the site..

In other news, the Leafs may approach other teams about acquiring the negotiating rights to upcoming unrestricted free agents in order to speak with them before the market opens on July 1st. Rumblings have the Leafs inquiring about the possibility of trading for the rights of Devils defenceman Paul Martin to replace Tomas Kaberle (if he is moved at the draft).
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If you trade Kaberle and Kadri for a winger, aren't you just in the exact same conundrum as we are now... Only looking for a top 6 center instead of a top 6 winger? And short one of our best trade assets?
 
A lot of buzz that Leafs draft pick Jamie Devane will be on the move. Plymouth is going to lose their three most important pieces in Tyler Seguin, Matt Hackett and Phil McRae this offseason in addition to losing power forward Josh Brittain. No one expects them to contend and a heavyweight like Devane is a wanted commodity by contending teams.

Likely Destinations:

Guelph: The Storm have a one year window to contend, but are more likely to spend trade bait on a defenseman. Still they've never contended without a heavyweight fighter in the past.

Kingston: Losing their own heavyweight in Kane Geldart last season, the Fronts became the Broad Street Bullies of the OHL under Gilmour's tutelage last season. The Fronts have some young scrappers which may give Killer more reason to fuel the John McFarland to Kingston rumour over trading for Devane

Peterborough: The Petes are gonna need an enforcer to protect skill guys like Puempel and Spooner and you don't want Austin Watson doing that.

Kitchener: The Rangers got pushed around too much by Windsor in the OHL Western Final last year and Steve Spott will try to change that this offseason. Worth noting that both years the Rangers went to the Memorial Cup in the last decade, they've had real heavyweights with untapped offence (David Clarkson and Brandon Mashinter)
 
The Kulemin talks hitting a brick wall for the time being shouldn't surprise anyone. The only way we'll lose Kulemin is if he goes back to Russia, which isn't particularly likely (though possible). The problem for Kulemin with going back to Russia is simple though: He's not Kovalchuk, he can take a pile of money and go back to Russia and in 2-3 years if he wants to come back, his level of play in Russia won't effect his contract value in the NHL one bit. Worse yet, I believe he would still be a RFA under out contractual control.

I see this ending when Burke matches an offer sheet presented to Kulemin that is somewhat, but not tremendously higher than the contract Burke has already offered Kule.
 
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