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Burke has said on numerous occasions that Kaberle will be dealt for NHL ready players that can help the team next year, so I'm exceedingly skeptical of any proposed deal that has Kaberle being dealt just for a draft pick.
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Yeah, this. He was quite emphatic in his last interview. Almost shouted the "now" part of it.
 
Thing is with that trade idea, you have to be absolutely bang on about Jordan Staal's offensive upside. If you get him decent wingers and top PP time and he becomes a ~60 pt centre while Kulemin becomes a 25-30 goal prototype winger for Crosby and Kaberle QB's their PP to 2 Stanley Cups in the next 6-7 years, we lose monstrously.
 

Staal would make an excellent 3rd line centre behind Bozak and Kadri. Staal's big, fast, can be physical, is good on pk'ing, and solid in his own end. Plus if Kadri or Bozak falters, he can jump up and take their place.
 
Pronger84 said:
Staal would make an excellent 3rd line centre behind Bozak and Kadri. Staal's big, fast, can be physical, is good on pk'ing, and solid in his own end. Plus if Kadri or Bozak falters, he can jump up and take their place.
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You don't trade a top 10 offensive blueliner and a brick shithouse Russian kid with 30 goal potential for a 3rd line centre.

You sign Manny Malhotra and keep both players.
 
You either believe Jordan Staal is capable of significantly more than he's done to this point in his career (which is a valid belief, but still just a belief) and you make the deal to install him as a #1-2 centre immediately, or you don't and you hang onto your pieces. Kaberle + Kulemin is a lot of talent to give up in a deal for anything but a substantial top 6 forward.
 
Let's talk about two of the other teams Eklund threw out there - LA Kings & NY Islanders... any need at all for Kaberle there and if so, what of a potential return?
 
JackBurton said:
Boston screwed Savard over pretty bad if they trade him. He gave them a very fair deal to stay and is traded a few months later.
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Savard has asked to be dealt...Toronto is his #1 choice followed by Ottawa. I know a close family member of Savard's here in Ottawa and he told me last week that he regrets signing in Boston and desperately wants to move back to Canada and closer to family...Apparently Bos is trying to accommodate him.
 
MindzEye said:
Thing is with that trade idea, you have to be absolutely bang on about Jordan Staal's offensive upside. If you get him decent wingers and top PP time and he becomes a ~60 pt centre while Kulemin becomes a 25-30 goal prototype winger for Crosby and Kaberle QB's their PP to 2 Stanley Cups in the next 6-7 years, we lose monstrously.
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But that could work both ways. If you turn it down and Kully turns out to be a 3rd liner who puts up 35-40pts per season you'll also be kicking yourself.

Stall has a better chance of becoming a number one centre then Kully does a top line winger.

He is 21 years old and has already proven that he is one of the top defensive centres in the game and in 3 of his first four seasons scored 20+ goals doing what Tim said, playing as a 3rd line centre
 
Savard has asked to be dealt...Toronto is his #1 choice followed by Ottawa. I know a close family member of Savard's here in Ottawa and he told me last week that he regrets signing in Boston and desperately wants to move back to Canada and closer to family...Apparently Bos is trying to accommodate him.
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I'll be honest with you, I'm skeptical. I would take him on the Leafs just not to give them Kaberle and have to play him 6 times a year.
 
hockeylover said:
Let's talk about two of the other teams Eklund threw out there - LA Kings & NY Islanders... any need at all for Kaberle there and if so, what of a potential return?
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The Kings have nothing I want that they would part with.

Isles have Okposo, who they probably wouldn't part with, but is at least a realistic demand.
 
Commodities that Los Angeles has that the Leafs would be interested in:

* RW Wayne Simmonds
* 2010 first round draft pick
* D prospect Thomas Hickey
* C prospect Brayden Schenn
 
Artnes said:
But that could work both ways. If you turn it down and Kully turns out to be a 3rd liner who puts up 35-40pts per season you'll also be kicking yourself.

Stall has a better chance of becoming a number one centre then Kully does a top line winger.

He is 21 years old and has already proven that he is one of the top defensive centres in the game and in 3 of his first four seasons scored 20+ goals doing what Tim said, playing as a 3rd line centre
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Again, I don't question how solid a player he is at this point. Really nice player, the question is about his ultimate offensive upside. If the guy turns into the ideal 2nd line centre scoring 60 points a year, even if Kule doesn't improve a lick (which is unlikely...he's already a 35-40 point marginal 2nd line winger), we lose that deal.

Kaberle goes back to being a 60+ defender on a team with competent PP components.
 
Simmonds would be a legend in this city being a Scarborough boy with attitude. Perfect fit and a true Burkie player, but you're right that Los Angeles is just as high on him as the Leafs would be and a deal is unlikely.
 
MindzEye said:
You either believe Jordan Staal is capable of significantly more than he's done to this point in his career (which is a valid belief, but still just a belief) and you make the deal to install him as a #1-2 centre immediately, or you don't and you hang onto your pieces. Kaberle + Kulemin is a lot of talent to give up in a deal for anything but a substantial top 6 forward.
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Something I'd never noticed till just now, is how incredibly similar Staal an Kadri's early OHL careers were.


Jordan Staal(15) - 66gp, 6g, 28pts (82gp, 7g, 35pts)
Nazem Kadri (15) - 62gp, 7g, 22pts (82gp, 9g, 29pts)


Jordan Staal (16) 68gp, 28g, 68pts (82gp, 34g, 82pts)
Nazem Kadri (16) 68gp, 25g, 65pts (82gp, 30g, 78pts)
 
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