Pronger84
Active member
They need to trade him. Seguin, Kreji, Begeron already take up 3 of the 4 centre spots. Unless they`re planning on bumping Savard to the 4th line, he has to be traded.
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They need to trade him. Seguin, Kreji, Begeron already take up 3 of the 4 centre spots. Unless they`re planning on bumping Savard to the 4th line, he has to be traded.
Exactly... they're not going to give him away for a pile of junk while at the same time bolstering the Leafs so they get a worse pick next year.
If they trade Savard to the Leafs it will be a fair deal.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Well, the question is whether he is still "very good", or just "good". His play took a significant dip last year, and while under normal circumstances I would expect a player of his age and offensive track record to bounce back to be a PPG+ player again, throw the concussion into the mix and now there are real questions concerning him.
This may be Boston's last chance of unloading him if the concussions have taken away from his play permanently. There is significant risk on the side of the team trading for Savard and you simply can't value him anything close to the 90 point centre on a laugher of a contract he was before he took that elbow.
Metalleaf
New member
yep, the only reason I posted that fluff trade earlier was to give an example of a "soft trade" as suggested by the "experts", I doubt Burke tries fleece Chiapet on purpose.
Well I'm pretty sure there would be a medical done before any trade was made.... or the trade would be pending a medical as per usual.
Of course he had a down year last season, not only did he have a lack of wingers, but he was injured pretty badly. He'll be fine next year.
corksens
Legend
It was 2.25 earlier. Maybe you don't know the Sens cap situation as well as you think.
Regin isn't getting 3 million a year.
hockeylover
Well-known member
Yeah, I don't really know why to tell you the truth. I think they're crazy. But a few of the most reliable reporters in hockey in Bobby Mac and LeBrun seem to think they want to and will for cheap, and that's good enough for me.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
This I entirely agree with though, I don't see us raping them. We'll give up at least one good asset that Boston wants in the deal, I wouldn't be shocked if it were Gunner due to his price (800K).
If Grabo is part of the deal, I would fully expect us to take on another salary. I would definitely be tempted to take Ryder's expiring deal on. He might give us a season of decent enough production (if nothing else he should help the PP...he's been a solid PP triggerman in the past) and we'd be able to take a run at free agency next summer with his and Giggy's expiring deals (10 + cap increase).
But yeah, this won't be Mitchell and a 12th rounder for Savard.
axlsalinger
Well-known member
In many scenarios I might disagree, but in this case Kyper is absolutely right. The player couldn't care less about the cap hit. They care about the paycheque. This is the contract from Savard's perspective.
$7M, $7M, $6.5M, $5M
$1.5M, $0.525M, $0.525M
Deals like this should not be allowed, but this one was signed, and approved by the league. There is virtually no chance Marc Savard shows up at the age of 38-39 to earn $525,000 per season. As HP said, he may play the $1.5M year if he's in a good position team and health-wise.
And looking at these numbers brings up a point that I'm not sure anyone's brought up yet (although maybe HL did earlier), which is that the actual cost of Savard is much higher than $4M for the Bruins. They probably don't feel like paying $7 million this year and next, $6.5 the year after, etc., for a player they don't really need. Probably another reason why the price won't be that high to acquire him. Very few teams can afford to take that kind of financial risk.
From our perspective, MLSE has a large vault full of gold pressed latinum, so they probably won't care if it's for a player who can help us earn playoff revenues once again. This is one of those examples where MLSE can use their bank account, to their advantage.
Why? Savard is still the best of the 4 centers... why would he be on the 4th line?
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Reading comprehension jerkoff, try it before you attempt to be condescending.
Fisher doesn't make 3 either, nor does Spezza make 5.
Those are the amount of years on their contracts you twat, and I expect Regin to sign at minimum a 3 year deal.
Make sense yet you ****ing moron?
Exactly... I usually don't agree with Kipper, but he's right.
I agree... these deals should not be allowed.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Eric Lindros passed medicals as well prior to trades and joining teams as a free agent.
The brain doesn't work the same way the knee, or shoulder does.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
this is a stupid statement.
savard is significantly better than every single one of those guys.
they don't NEED to trade savard. there is no need for it. they could move krejci or bergeron. they could shift one of them to the wing. they don't need to trad ehim.
ForeverTML
Well-known member
ewww to ribeiro.
The Sens can take on his 4 m and keep Spezza.
If everyone here wants to delude themselves into thinking the Leafs are the more likely desitination, then have fun, but the reality of the situation is quite the opposite.
BeLeafer
Well-known member
That might piss me off as much as giving up Kabs for him.
Has anyone yet noted that Savard does not really fit Burke's mold and what he's looking to get this season? It does nothing to address the serious need we have for some size/punch on the top six.
leafman101
Well-known member
The Leafs need an elite first line scorer way more than size and punch.