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hockeylover said:
I definitely think it doesn't make all that much sense, cork, but I think it's kind of unfair to come here and say we're all delusional for discussing something that's being talked about like it's a very real possibility from respected hockey people - McKenzie and LeBrun. Any fanbase would be doing the same thing.

This isn't an Eklund rumour.
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I have no problem with discussing the possibility of the Leafs getting Savard. That doesn't mean I won't try to talk some sense into some people who seem to think that Boston's hands are tied and that the Leafs are going to rape the Bruins. Chiarelli has proven to be a pretty shrewd GM. He will get decent value for Savard no matter where he trades him. It would be Grabs, Mitchell and a 4th for Savard and a 2nd like some people here seem to think.
 
I have no problem with discussing the possibility of the Leafs getting Savard. That doesn't mean I won't try to talk some sense into some people who seem to think that Boston's hands are tied and that the Leafs are going to rape the Bruins. Chiarelli has proven to be a pretty shrewd GM. He will get decent value for Savard no matter where he trades him. It would be Grabs, Mitchell and a 4th for Savard and a 2nd like some people here seem to think.
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Yeah, I was just responding to corksens, who said we were delusional to think he goes to Toronto in the first place, despite Bob McKenzie going on TSN and saying there's a possibility it occurs. I mean, what else are we supposed to think?
 
Maybe Gunnarson, Kelemin and a prospect for Savard?

I'm not sure how it happens without Kaberle, but I'm sure it's possible.
 
Thing is, that's not a cap dump at all really. It saves them some cash money, but no cap space.

If Kule comes in at 2.5 and Gunner at .8, that saves Boston 900K in cap. Kule isn't going to be very cap friendly at his current production level in his new contract, the hope with him is that he turns into a 25+ goal scorer during this new contract.
 
I keep hearing Boston doesn't want / have to move him ... then why is he on the block?

Chia approached Savard, asking him to name 2 teams to waive his NTC for ... this is because - ??

I still don't think Boston will trade him in the end, because they will get absolutely nothing back for him, and they'll decide they might as well keep him.

Very much like the Spezza - Ott situation.

But if people think they are getting some significant pieces in return, then they're plain wrong.
 
These are the only assets I can think of that involve little or very little cap space going back: Stalberg, Gunnarsson, Caputi, Hanson, Aulie, Paradis, D'Amigo, Blacker, Reimer and our 2nd and 4th next year. We don't have our third I don't believe.
 
MindzEye said:
Thing is, that's not a cap dump at all really. It saves them some cash money, but no cap space.

If Kule comes in at 2.5 and Gunner at .8, that saves Boston 900K in cap. Kule isn't going to be very cap friendly at his current production level in his new contract, the hope with him is that he turns into a 25+ goal scorer during this new contract.
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again, though.

this isn't a cap move. savard is available because of the 7 year commitment, not the $4mn cap hit.
 
Maybe its just me but I just dont want to go through these quick fixes instead of developing our own talent.

Sure its the harder way, but Chicago is a prime example of a team that waited and stockpiled prospects and picks before making a huge run.

We've got a good group of prospect depth in various areas, Id rather be content with finding our own Savard in there.
 
A big plus for Chicago was that they were able to lock up a front line forward in Hossa for a relatively small cap hit. Savard would fill that role nicely.
 
I really think giving up Caputi could be a possibility. I am sure Bos knew about Pitts prospects and maybe they saw him in a positive light as well.

Sign mitchell to the 10% raise and put together a package of Caputi, Mitchell and next years 3rd rounder
 
I really think giving up Caputi could be a possibility. I am sure Bos knew about Pitts prospects and maybe they saw him in a positive light as well.

Sign mitchell to the 10% raise and put together a package of Caputi, Mitchell and next years 3rd rounder
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Ugh.
 
hockeylover said:
I definitely think it doesn't make all that much sense, cork, but I think it's kind of unfair to come here and say we're all delusional for discussing something that's being talked about like it's a very real possibility from respected hockey people - McKenzie and LeBrun. Any fanbase would be doing the same thing.

This isn't an Eklund rumour.
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It's not even a rumor - it's just that Toronto was named as one of the few likely destinations because of proximity for Savards family.

But that doesn't mean Boston makes a bad trade to a division rival and the one team in the league that they directly benefit from falling flat.
 
It's not even a rumor - it's just that Toronto was named as one of the few likely destinations because of proximity for Savards family.

But that doesn't mean Boston makes a bad trade to a division rival and the one team in the league that they directly benefit from falling flat.
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How is it NOT a rumour? It's been reported that Savard waived his no trade clause for two teams, Toronto and Ottawa. LeBrun, Dreger, and McKenzie all say the Leafs are interested. And they all seem to believe that it won't involve Kaberle with both Dreger and LeBrun saying it's a "soft trade".

How is that not a rumour? How are we delusional for talking about this, how?
 
hockeylover said:
How is it NOT a rumour? It's been reported that Savard waived his no trade clause for two teams, Toronto and Ottawa. LeBrun, Dreger, and McKenzie all say the Leafs are interested. And they all seem to believe that it won't involve Kaberle with both Dreger and LeBrun saying it's a "soft trade".

How is that not a rumour? How are we delusional for talking about this, how?
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You're reading me wrong here.

Savard has waived his NTC for two teams, Toronto and Ottawa. Of course these two teams will have interest in him. Without question.

But does Boston have ANY interest in dealing with either of them? Let alone making the deal a "soft" one? I just see it as very unlikely that they make a move to either team...let alone Toronto...
 
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