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Habspatrol said:
Why not at least show Weiss' last couple years?

25 years old:
Weiss: 78 gp, 14 g 61 p (82 gp 15g 64p)

26 years old:
Weiss: 59 gp, 21 g 48 p (82 gp 29g 67p)

Weiss has really made great strides the last couple years. I'm not sure how much more he'll improve but it looks like he could easily be a 25-30g 70p+ guy who is solid at both ends. That's a very good second line center who could easily fill in on the top line if necessary.
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Well, Horton doesn't have stats at ages 25 and 26 to make a valid comparison.

Weiss has improved from being a 45-50 pt guy to a 60-65 pt guy over the last couple years. That's good 2nd line production, and maybe even 1st line centre prodction on some teams, but is that good enough production to trade assets for him and take time away from Bozak and Kadri.
 
For me, sometimes all it takes is watching a guy play a couple of times.

The two or three times I've seen Horton play this year I've been really impressed. Really impressed. This guy could finally be on the verge of really breaking out.

If Florida is stupid enough to be blowing up their roster by trading away young players at a discount, I want in on Horton. He'd be a perfect top 6 guy for us for years to come.

Weiss, not so much.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
Well, Horton doesn't have stats at ages 25 and 26 to make a valid comparison.

Weiss has improved from being a 45-50 pt guy to a 60-65 pt guy over the last couple years. That's good 2nd line production, and maybe even 1st line centre prodction on some teams, but is that good enough production to trade assets for him and take time away from Bozak and Kadri.
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You posted the lock out years.

Kadri looks like he could be pretty good. We'll see how it translates to the NHL.

Bozak is off to a very decent start to his NHL career (16 games) but I would hardly be passing up on proven solid 2nd line potential 1st line 26 year old forward in favor of the nearly 24 year old undrafted rookie.

If you could land Weiss at a decent price I think you do it and concern yourself with Bozak's ice time later.
 
if you can get weiss at a good price, there's no gm in the league that would say "nahh we don't need 2nd liners".. especially in the leafs situation since he'd immediately be our 2nd best forward.
 
The Panthers aren't going to just give away Weiss for free. The Leafs wouldn't be able to get him for scraps like late picks and B / C unproven prospects.

I'd rather sign Stajan for free than trade assets for Weiss.
 
Weiss (26): 59gms, 21gls, 48pts, 20:01 (82gms, 29gls, 67pts)
Stajan (26): ?????

Weiss (25): 78gms, 14gls, 61pts, 17:48 (82gms, 15gls, 64pts)
Stajan (25): 62gms, 18gls, 45pts, 18:47 (82gms, 24gls, 60pts)

Weiss (24): 74gms, 13gls, 42pts, 17:35 (82gms, 14gls, 47pts)
Stajan (24): 76gms, 15gls, 55pts, 16:56 (82gms, 16gls, 59pts)

Weiss (23): 74gms, 20gls, 48pts, 17:07 (82gms, 22gls, 53pts)
Stajan (23): 82gms, 16gls, 33pts, 18:54 (82gms, 16gls, 33pts)

Weiss (22): 41gms, 9gls, 21pts, 15:15 (82gms, 18gls, 42pts)
Stajan (22): 82gms, 10gls, 39pts, 16:09 (82gms, 10gls, 39pts)

Weiss (21): Lockout
Stajan (21): 80gms, 15gls, 27pts, 11:38 (82gms, 15gls, 28pts)

Weiss (20): 50gms, 12gls, 29pts, 17:42 (82gms, 20gls, 48pts)
Stajan (20): Lockout

Weiss (19): 77gms, 6gls, 21pts, 14:17 (82gms, 6gls, 22pts)
Stajan (19): 69gms, 14gls, 27pts, 11:00 (82gms, 17gls, 32pts)

Weiss (18): 7gms, 1gls, 2pts, 16:14 (82gms, 12gls, 25pts)
Stajan (18): 1gms, 1gls, 1pts, 11:00 (82gms, 82gls, 82pts)
 
Studin said:
Rickard Wallin and Jonas Frogren Possibly Headed Back To Sweden
(Link is in Swedish)
http://hockey.expressen.se/elitserien/1.1879196/nhl-svensk-erbjuds-dromlon-av-farjestad
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Really? If this is true, this is a bad move by Ricky. He's meshing really well with Sjostrom, and is starting to produce. If he keeps it up, he could convince some GM that he's an NHLer, maybe looking at a longer term contract next year...with some other team, of course.

Frogren? Meh...nice AHL help, but not much of an NHLer.
 
runninglow said:
Really? If this is true, this is a bad move by Ricky. He's meshing really well with Sjostrom, and is starting to produce. If he keeps it up, he could convince some GM that he's an NHLer, maybe looking at a longer term contract next year...with some other team, of course.

Frogren? Meh...nice AHL help, but not much of an NHLer.
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Hahahah good one.....
 
Yeah and that'd be a TERRIBLE trade for the Leafs if it's a 1 for 1 ... I'm not even sure about a Kaberle for Hodgson + 1st trade.

Hodgson's gotta be one of the MOST overrated prospect in modern NHL history
 
If Kaberle used his shot as often as the inferior shot of Beauchemin, he could probably retire here. He has an amazing shot, but almost never uses it. I don't think Burke likes that, and he will probably not rest until he trades him.

I hope Kaberle lands somewhere good, he is one of the three classiest Leafs I have seen. Sundin(he was classy for sure most of the time) Keon and Kaberle. Dougie also, but he wasn't here long enough.

I am not all that excited about Hodgson though. In retrospect, I wish we had just traded him for Carter. Now that guy I like.
 
And speaking of Hodgson, this from the Globe ...

A rift between the Vancouver Canucks and top prospect Cody Hodgson is growing after the latter said he no longer plans to train under the NHL team's supervision.

Hodgson said yesterday he would not work out with Canucks director of player development Dave Gagner this summer.

Hodgson, 19, a former gold-medal winner with Canada's world junior team, suffered a back injury last July while dry-land training with Gagner in London, Ont.

The injury kept him out of action, save a few NHL preseason games, until this week when he returned to action with the OHL's Brampton Battalion.

"I'm not talking about Cody Hodgson," Canucks general manager Mike Gillis said from Boston. "He doesn't play for our team."

When asked what he made of Hodgson's statement, Gillis replied: "I don't care."

At one point, Gillis clearly cared.

He hired Gagner to work with the organization's best prospects, believing they could be fast-tracked to the big leagues if directed by a former NHL player who gave them personal attention. Gagner's role is one of the main tenets in Gillis's attempt to rebuild a farm system that has been one of the league's worst.

"[Hodgson] has some ideas of his own," Gillis said.

"I haven't talked to him, so I'm not going to comment until then."

Hodgson, an all-star forward at the 2009 world junior tournament in Ottawa, netted two assists in his season debut as Brampton downed Erie 4-2 last Thursday.

He has been receiving treatment from Dr. Tony Miniaci at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio and from doctors in his native Toronto. He said he was also working with a Brampton-based trainer.

Until his injury, Hodgson was the golden boy of a Canucks franchise starved for prospects.

Once considered an untouchable asset, it is now worth wondering if Hodgson could be moved by the NHL's trade deadline on March 3.

The rift began to develop in training camp, where Hodgson clearly wasn't up to NHL pace.

(Skating was considered the weakest part of his game heading into the 2009 NHL entry draft, when he was selected by Vancouver with the 10th overall selection.)

Hodgson admitted that he had a back injury that was shooting pain down one leg.

"I'm not looking back," Hodgson said on a conference call, his first public comments since September.

"All I'm worried about is rehab and hopefully that pain doesn't return. I want to make sure it's healthy and is from here on."

Canucks management had hoped Hodgson would be the rare teenager who could compete in the NHL, but head coach Alain Vigneault said the Canadian Hockey League's player-of-the-year wasn't close to earning a roster spot.

Privately, the Canucks wondered if Hodgson was simply spooked by the talent at camp and used the back injury to explain his underwhelming performance.

A couple of days before he was returned to junior, Hodgson cutoff all talk about his back, and he later cutoff interview requests as he was rehabbing in Brampton.

"In the summer, I won't be training with Mr. Gagner," Hodgson said.

"I feel I have good trainers I can work with in Toronto."

Hodgson could play 17 more games with the Battalion during the regular season and more in the OHL playoffs.

Once his junior season is over, he could be assigned to the Manitoba Moose, Vancouver's AHL minor-league affiliate.
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Hodgson's gotta be one of the MOST overrated prospect in modern NHL history
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this is a ridiculous statement on so many levels.

i think some canucks fans overrated hodgson, but it's easy to understand why they're excited by him. he's an excellent prospect.

the injuries are a concern, though. if he didn't have this back issue then i'd take him in a heart beat. the kid has produced consistently gaudy numbers.

before the injuries he was a pretty comparable prospect to kadri, at least in terms of offensive ceiling. he could be a 35-40 goal 70-80 point centre in the nhl. he clearly has the talent.
 
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