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Artnes said:
I stand corrected.
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Brings up an interesting point though...

For instance, did Calgary trade for Bouwmeesters rights, without having any idea whatsoever whether they'd be able to sign him to a contract? (which I believe by the letter of the law, is how it should have gone down)

Or did they have some conversations with him behind the scenes, and have a good idea they'd be able to hammer something out.....and simply trade for his rights, to ensure other teams didn't get to make him a formal contract offer on July 1st.
 
All they have to do is have Rick Curran talk to whatever GM it is before the trade goes down and figure out if Kaberle has interest in staying with the team beyond that year. Then they do an extension July 1st.
 
Montana said:
Brings up an interesting point though...

For instance, did Calgary trade for Bouwmeesters rights, without having any idea whatsoever whether they'd be able to sign him to a contract? (which I believe by the letter of the law, is how it should have gone down)

Or did they have some conversations with him behind the scenes, and have a good idea they'd be able to hammer something out.....and simply trade for his rights, to ensure other teams didn't get to make him a formal contract offer on July 1st.
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In that case, Calgary would have approached Florida and said, "We want him. Will you let us talk to him, and if we reach a deal, we will give you XXX for him"

Just like the Habs and Sundin - we talked to him before he became a UFA. If we had reached a deal, then we likely would have traded some random pick or something for him.

So for Kaberle, if a team was interested, they might ask to speak to Kaberle's agent, and casually mention if he wanted to sign an extension, before actually trading for him. Or Toronto could refuse that request, and not let the team know whether Kaberle was interested in signing an extension there or not.
 
Even without an extension - with a decent season wherever he's traded, Kabs would still be a valuable commodity at the trade deadline. I'd say the value he'd bring in a trade is pretty close in both scenarios.
 
DarrenDreger: Brian Burke says he's looking for a winger who can score and secondary toughness in any trade involving Kaberle.
 
More from Dreger......

The Toronto Maple Leafs recently sent an email to NHL teams acknowledging defenceman Tomas Kaberle is available.

The email outlined Kaberle's contract status and reminded general managers that Kaberle's no-trade clause will lift at the upcoming NHL Entry Draft and will return in August.

The email sparked interest, with as many as five teams currently inquiring about the Leafs asking price; two of the teams are said to be keenly interested.

Toronto is seeking either a first-round draft pick, or a young player capable of immediately stepping into the Maple Leafs' lineup.

The Leafs would like to acquire a first-round pick to jump into this year's draft mix, but Leafs management says such a move isn't a priority.

At the moment, sources say there are no firm offers and no team has been given clearance to speak to Kaberle's agent Rick Curran about a contract extension.

There is no urgency to move Kaberle, who has one year remaining on his contract, and extending his deal is also considered an option as the veteran defenceman has made it clear he wants to stay in Toronto.

However, there will be no extension discussions before the Leafs get a good read on what teams are willing to give up in trade for Kaberle in the coming weeks.
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I still thought that we might go into next season with Kaberle, but it now looks next to certain that he is gone.

Let's just hope that Burke can squeeze as much as possible out of a deal.
 
Kabs value is slightly down now compared to the almost jeff carter deal. Kabs is worth a top 6 roster player, and a mid to late round 1st rounder. A lot of teams are going to be cautious here, Kabs is basically a rental player, he's only got 1 year left on his contracts. A lot of teams are interested in Kabs, but aren't willing to gamble the farm for a great D who odds are will only be with that team for 1 year. The only way I can see teams giving up a lot is if they know 100% that Kabs will sign an extension. If Burke wants more value for Kabs, I'd up him to a 2-3 year extension, then trade him. You'd get more for him that way.
 
If we can squeeze Dallas for James Neal i would be thrilled. He is exactly what we should be looking for in a deal for Kaberle.

With the the way Burke was talking the other day, Neal fits his description for everything. From Scoring, grit, to secondary toughness.
 
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